Skip Estes - A white Christian Musician Minister from Texas converted to Islam!!! Why

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This is the true story of a white Christian Musician Minister from Texas named Skip Estes. He started telling his amazing story by saying:
To be honest, I was a “dedicated Christian” and a good 'ole boy from Texas. I hated anything and everything about those “Mozlems”, just like you are supposed to, here in the West.
We were told, "They don’t believe in God; they worship a black box in the desert; they kiss the ground 5 times a day, - they are hijackers! - Kidnappers! Terroists! Hijackers!

If you are an American Christian - you have to hate them! - All of them! – So I did.

The first 50 years or so of my life I had been married, divorced, remarried, had 5 children, 4 grandchildren and lived under some poor and some rich conditions. I had been able to visit almost every state in the United States and visited many other countries around the world, including:
Monaco, the Grand Bahamas, Canada, Mexico, France, Germany, England, Italy, Sweden, Denmark, Holland, Ireland, Germany, Denmark and Austria.

I have enjoyed the company of princes, paupers, rulers and slaves (really). I have been the guest in palaces and been a member of exclusive country clubs and even sat in jails with prisoners… I have made and lost large fortunes of wealth on this earth. I started my own business at 12 years of age. I made my first million before the age of 35. (I lost it by age 40)! Several times after that I earned other fortunes and wasted them on foolishness.

Even when I lost money, I never considered I was a ‘looser’. I was only: “In between successes.” Worldly wealth had always been important to me. I liked the power of being able to do - what I wanted, where I wanted, when I wanted, because I wanted.

But the most important thing I discovered of all, was the
Secret of SUCCESS and HAPPINESS!

Please read the rest of his story at his website: http://www.islamtomorrow.com/yusuf/success.htm#part1

Regards,
Freeman

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This sounds like some weird bizarro-land Islamic spam mail… Off the bat I strongly doubt its authenticity and can only offer a :rolleyes:

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So a nutjob fundamentalist waste of oxygen Jesus freak is susceptible to becoming a nutjob fundamentalist waste of oxygen follower of Mohammed?

Inconceivable.

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Judging from that website, Christians have hella more fun and Muslims prefer to witness via cruddy doggerel.

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Islam is the fastest growing faith on Earth.

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The world’s first Islamic infomercial.

I’m fond of the “if you’re an American Christian, you have to hate them” part. I must have missed a memo. :smack:

Islam is the fastest growing faith on Earth.

I’m not so sure about that.

I don’t think it’s valid to say claim that if they’re counting babies born into Muslim households, as well as converts. Christianity counts only converts, as you can’t be “born” a Christian, you have to decide to become one.

Would be interesting to see which faith is growing the fastest as far as conversions go.

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I find it amusing that the thread title sounds like the author is feeling threatened at the idea of a Christian converting to Islam…

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We could always debate whether or not the guy was actually a Christian to begin with :wink:

Or not!

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That does it for me. I’m converting. Now to get the mods to change my screename to Cat Stevens…

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Hey this one’s great, please don’t ban it, please? At least let us play with it a while…?

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I’ve heard the same claim made about Pentecostalism, Mormonism & Neo-Paganism. If I start a religion today & make one convert a day, at the end of the week I’ll only have seven converts but it’ll be at a rate of 700% growth in a week.

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If you want to have a contest, maybe its valid, maybe it isn’t. Depends on who is playing along.

If you have any interest in the end result, however, it’s completely valid, and likely true. I just read in The Atlantic Monthly, I believe, that Europe will almost certainly have a Muslim majority by 2050.

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Don’t most Christian churches, except for the Baptists, and some smaller groups, practice infant baptism, though, and don’t churches generally count baptismal figures for membership? So, from that perspective, you’d be “born” a Christian, or at least become a Christian so soon after birth that it’s the same thing, practically.

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Off the top of my head, Catholics, Methodists, some Presbyterian sects and I think the Nazarenes do infant baptism.

None of them, as far as I know, consider the baby to be an “official” member until they are “confirmed” or whatnot at a later age. The baptism is more for the parents; they’re promising in front of the church to raise the kid in a Christian home. Other denominations, such as the Baptists, do baby confirmations, which is the same thing.

Maybe infants and children are considered congregants but not “members?” I grew up Baptist, but didn’t become a Christian until I was 7. Before then, I wasn’t considered a member of the church, I joined the church when I got saved. I’m sure all churches count the kiddies, but maybe they’re considered to be a different type of member until they are old enough to decide for themselves whether to join.

You can’t become a Christian without making a conscious decision to become one, so no, you can’t be born a Christian. Born INTO a Christian family, absolutely, raised in a Christian home, but sometime in your life there’s gotta be some form of decision that you make on your own.

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Big deal, so one travels between two faiths which are connected. Point being?

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Stoid: * I just read in The Atlantic Monthly, I believe, that Europe will almost certainly have a Muslim majority by 2050.*

! :dubious: !! Did they provide any growth-rate figures to back up that claim? Because estimates that I’ve seen are far more conservative about the demographics of European Muslims, along the lines of this article (from the Chicago Tribune last month), asserting that “**y midcentury, at least one in five Europeans will be Muslim”. It is quite a leap from “at least 20%” to “over 50%”.

Perhaps the Atlantic was counting among European nations not only Russia and B&H (with about 20% and 40% current Muslim population, respectively) but also Turkey (with about 70 million people, almost 100% of whom are Muslim)? That might do it. But it certainly would not follow that the population of most Western European nations 45 years from now is going to be anything like 50% Muslim.

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Nope, Catholicism considers children “official” members-whatever that means.

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Point being, it’s a highly unusual story, if true. Islam gets a lot of converts, but few from the ranks of American fundamentalist Christianity.

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Well I’m a Muslim, and this is the first time I’ve seen Islamic witnessing on the boards. Still gets a :rolleyes: from me though…

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This is the true story of a white Christian Musician Minister from Texas named Tim Waite.He startedd telling his amazing story by saying:
To be honest, I was a “dedicated Christian” and a N’inglandeh from Maine. I hated anything and everything about those “Insmouth folk”, just like you are supposed to, here in the West.
We were told, "They don’t believe in God; they worship a fishing net; they bow to the Devil’s Reef, - they are inbred! - Murderers! Smugglers! Inbred!

If you are a Nor’east Christian - you have to hate them! - All of them! – So I did.

The first 50 years or so of my life I had been married, divorced, remarried, had 5 children, 4 grandchildren and lived under some poor and some rich conditions. I had been able to visit almost every state in the United States and visited many other countries around the world, including:
Monaco, the Grand Bahamas, Mexico, France, Germany, England, Italy, Holland, Ireland, Denmark and Austria.

Eh. The Heck With It

It just isn’t worth the effort. Not to mention that the grammar of the letter is awful, the list of countries gives some names twice, etc.