Sleep is supposed to be restful...right?

I don’t know what happened to me. When I was a kid I could sleep. I mean that restful, rejuvinating, refreshing sleep…do you remember that? I’m starting to wonder if it ever existed.

This morning I woke up and felt more exhausted by a night of trying to sleep comfortably than if I’d just stayed up all night. When did it go away? I don’t remember. Did I do something wrong? Was there some tribute that I was supposed to pay, some sacrifice I was supposed to make to the Sandman? Nobody tells me anything.

Am I the only one? What’s wrong with me? How did I forget how to sleep?

I lay down. I close my eyes. Everything seems to go according to the book. But it’s not that good, life-feeding sleep. Sleeping has become work. I know half the trouble is what I’m sleeping on. I remember Swiddles’ thread about her big girl bed. But it’s more than that. I forgot how to sleep somewhere along the way.

Am I supposed to be doing some pre-sleep relaxation exercises? help…yawn…help…

I’ve been feeling like that for ages. I usually wake up feeling worse than I did when I went to bed (OK,I’ve never been a morning person, but that’s ridiculous!).

I figure that due to recent budget cutbacks and cost saving exercises, the sandman is using lower quality sand. hence, the nasty gritty, “why did I waste x hours of my life for that grade of sleep” feeling

Dunno what causes it, but I have many more restless and disturbed nights than I ever did as a kid. And lately, I wake at least 30 minutes before my alarm goes off.

I suspect my relatively sedentary lifestyle has something to do with it. I really should get my buns in gear…

It may be because you are worrying too much. When you layy down in bed, don’t think fretful thoughts like ‘how am I going to pay the mortgage’ or ‘why can’t I get any decent sleep’. You need to just lay there and think pleasant, fun thoughts like ‘what would I do if I won millions of dollars’ or ‘if struuter & fierra & xizor were stranded on a island who would be the last to get nekkid’. It is all a state of mind thing. Really. Try it.

Budget cuts. Who’d a thunk. I am glad that the kids are getting the good, quality stuff. Maybe that’s one of those interesting, bitter sweet realities of life. There is only so much good sleep and the kids get it. Maybe all of us ‘sleep failures’ should just get together and play cards or watch movies all night. At least we’d be in good company…

Honey, you might have hit the nail on the head with that one. I do worry way too much. In fact, I’ll wake myself up just to remember to worry about something. sigh
I like the nekkid thing, though. You volunteering for that, xizor? That’s awful big of you. :wink:

Yes I am, and yes it is :wink:

Seriously though, try the only happy thoughts at bedtime approach. I used to a have terrible time sleeping. Like only getting 2-3 hours a night. Because when I crawled in bed, I would worry about my problems. Now I do the only fun fantasies allowed while waiting for sleep to overtake me, and I am up to like 4.5 to 5 hours a night. So far you have appeared in seven of them :slight_smile:

Yeah, right. Sweet talker.

it’s all the children’s fault…you’ve noticed the wonderful quality of sleep they all enjoy…

it’s a goshdarned conspiracy, I tell ya…of course their sleep is unemcumbered by worry…they KNOW we worry for them…oh yesss…they KNOW…they have us programmed from before birth…

they start interrupting our sleep patterns by pressing on our bladders relentlessly. For many months.

then, after birth, they wake at ungodly intervals…for years…then there are nightmares, bathroom trips, glasses of liquids…more bathroom trips…this is all a training process…can’t you all see that!!!

unless they have hangovers, all the single/no kids people I know all look well-rested and refreshed…coincidence?? I think not!!!

it’s the kids, I tell you…open your eyes…if they keep us exhausted and weak, they can milk us for all we’re worth…they could take over the world…its evil…

oh god…my 4 yr. is coming…gotta go…

Yeah, I see your point. So it’s okay for me to sneak into my kids’ room and grab them, shouting, “HEY! THE DINOSAURS ARE HERE! THE DINOSAURS ARE HERE! LOOK OUT FOR THOSE BIG, KNASHING TEETH!”

You think I might sleep better after that? I certainly would get a good, albeit sadistic chuckle out of it.

I haven’t had a good nights sleep for almost six years. Now that I think about it, I’ve never been good at sleeping, even when I was a child. It takes at least 30 minutes for me to fall completely asleep - and that’s on a good night, when I’ve had an active day and no troubles on my mind.

Everything wakes me up, too. Our 2 floors under neighbor has a baby, and I wake up at least twice a night and start undoing my bra before I remember my baby is five. We live in Army housing, so even if the husband is not at home/doesn’t have PT, I’m still awakened at 5:30 by everyone else’s alarm clocks. It gets really bad in the summer, because we don’t have AC and everyone’s windows are open.

To top it off, I was a sleepwalker and now TinyTot is a sleepwalker. So, sometimes I wake up because it’s too quiet and I want to make sure he hasn’t wandered off someplace.

Sorry for the ramble, I just really, really need a good night’s sleep.

tatertot wrote: Our 2 floors under neighbor has a baby, and I wake up at least twice a night and start undoing my bra before I remember my baby is five.

Last winter, travelling with friends and sharing a hotel room, I had to warn my bedmate that if she tugged on my shoulder in the night I was more than likely to roll over and lift my shirt up. She was careful to stay on her side of the bed!

struuter, just a thought…what shape is your mattress in? We recently bought a new one and the difference in how we both felt in the morning was incredible.

I’m really just the oposite. When I was a child I was so frightened at night that I would lay there with the covers up around my neck, eyes wide open, searching the darkness until dawn cracked the window. Often when I did sleep I had such horrendous nightmares that they woke me in a sweat, especially if my throat or ears were infected again and I ran a fever. My “fever dreams” were of formless, drifting, terrifying colors. I didn’t begin to sleep until well into my teens when I usually drank and/or smoked pot every night. For years during my marriage I didn’t sleep because my husband snored loud enough to wake the dead.

I sleep just fine now as long as something isn’t bothering me. Often I sleep so soundly that I don’t even move in the bed much at all. I wake up with “dead fish” arm having laid on it so long that it is paralyzed. I don’t move around much after years of sharing a double bed with a drunk. I just keep to my little few inches, clinging to the side of the bed. It’s a habit, because I’ve been divorced since 96. Sometimes I can go for weeks or months with what I call “interrupted” sleep. I will fall asleep just fine but wake up sometime in the middle of the night and not be able to get back. This is usually when I am stressing about something, money etc. But for most nights I sleep like a rock. I’m too old and been through too much at my age to still be afraid of things that go bump in the night. It’s the nutty people you meet during the day that scare the hell out of me now.

Anyhooo…Little things I’ve picked up about having a restful sleep…

Quiet and dark…if you sleep with the TV, radio, a lot of traffic noise or a snorer you may not be falling into a deep enough sleep. Hence you don’t feel rested in the morning. Light can have the same effect.

Stuff you eat before bed really can effect your sleep. After all your intestinal tract is processing while you’re trying to get some shut eye.

Temperature can ruin your sleep, if it’s too hot or too cold. (Personally I can lay there and sleep sweating for hours but if I get too cold forget it!)

The other poster’s advice about trying to think relaxing thoughts means a lot. I’m worn out most of the time from “single motherhood” but if I go to bed stressing on something I ain’t gonna cop many Zs.

I also seem to need a good firm mattress. I know some folks like water beds, and feather beds and floaty types of beds, but I personally need something firm. Those mattress commericals aren’t completely bogus. A lumpy mattress can ruin your sleep.

Position can also be a problem. You know they say you shouldn’t sleep on your tummy cause it throws your back out of line that kind of thing, but for the life of me I can’t fall asleep on my back, unless it’s on the couch.

Duration might be the problem. I remember something about them saying a good rule of thumb for an adult would be 5 to 8 hours. My sister said something about this to me the other day. She’d read that they’ve raised the 5 hour rule for adults, due to our stressful lives and that kind of thing. But I do know it is also possible to get too much sleep. Like when napping, a little 45 to 1 hour nap is better than 2 or more. It’s less likely to leave you with that whacked out feeling.

Oh well…got long winded…did I put you to sleep? Very topical for me today since I didn’t get but about 2 hours last night. I had a rough night myself.

Needs2know

No really!

  1. The island one
  2. The bank vault one
  3. The jello wrestling finals one
  4. The mile high club indocrination one
  5. The train ride circa 1880 one
  6. The pool table one
  7. The beach one

See! Seven of them!

Needs, you’re so right. How you sleep is important. I can’t sleep on my back either. I just don’t feel comfortable in any position. (man, I’m leaving myself open there, aren’t I?) I think the only time I really sleep well is between three and five in the morning. I oughtta leave the damned tv off, but I’ve got tinnitus and it’s like having a fire alarm go off in my ear. Impossible to sleep unless I have some other noise.

I would SOOOOO like to hear about these. :wink:
Bank vault? Train? Pool table? Interesting…

OK, but that will require a seperate thread, because nary a one is about sleeping.

But speaking of sleeping, I also am very picky about my position. Plus when I sleep on my side I must have a pillow to wedge between my knees so they don’t stick together.

I too haven’t been able to get a good night’s sleep in years. I recently started nodding off at work! Out of frustration I had a sleep study done. I have sleep apnea. I actually stop breathing at night. This stops me from falling into REM sleep (the type of sleep where you get your rest) because I actually wake up several times a night and don’t even know it.

Do you have any of the following symptoms?[ul]
[li]Have you gained a few pounds over the last year? (has your neck size increased?[/li][li]Do people tell you that you snore loudly?[/li][li]Do people tell you it sounds like your gagging when your asleep?[/li][li]Do you get up frequently to use the bathroom in the middle of the night, when you never used to?[/li][li]Do you wake up in the middle of the night with your heart racing or covered in sweat?[/li][/ul]

The main three solutions to sleep apnea seem to be:[list=1]
[li]Lose weight/exercise more[/li][li]Uvelectomy (my medical terminology days are way behind me)[/li][li]CPAP machine.[/li][/list=1]

…do not know your age or gender, but…I recently read a blurb in the paper that stated that due to hormonal and other chemical changes the majority of men over 40 no longer enjoyed ANY substantial REM (deep,restful) sleep…damn! that isn’t fair at all :frowning:

Well…the guy thing is not applicable. The sleep apnea thing doesn’t seem to fit either…but I’ll look into it. Heck, I’d just like to wake up, stretch my arms and welcome the day. Not force myself into a sitting position and wish I had another six hours to wrestle with the sheets. I’m no morning person. I always thought that was the problem. I’m so blissfully happy late at night, the promise of sleep and rest. But it doesn’t work out that way. Yuck.
I’ve tried reading myself to sleep–it always works, but never with any real quality. I’ve tried working out before bed–I’m always exhausted, but again, no quality.
I need to re-learn to relax. ha. That should be maybe…re-learn to re-lax? I was never laxed to begin with. How can I re-lax? Ugh. I ramble. Please excuse…
xizor. Give me something good to put myself to bed with. Start that thread. wink Or will I sleep at all?

struuter, do you by any chance take an SSRI like Prozac? Many of them cause “quality of sleep” problems, even if you’re getting enough hours, and the problem can arise even after you’ve been taking it for years. There are other medicines that can alleviate this effect, like Trazodone.