Wow, I’m going to have to think about it, but that joke is not that smart or obscure. It will probably be a reference to an obscure TV show or old movie.
It’s a reference to Martin Luther, a 16th century priest and the father of protestantism. He wrote a letter to the pope codemning the sale of indulgences and which came to be known as the Ninety-Five Theses.
I remember one particularly unsavory looking character in a movie, and Crowe T. Robot said something to the effect that, “Wow, he makes Ignatius J. Reilly look dapper!” (or something like that). I don’t know too many people who’ve read A Confederacy of Dunces, so it struck me as pretty obscure, and quite funny.
The most obscure riffs would be the ones related to their own lives, like “She stole Mike’s keyboard!” They didn’t do too many of those, but there are some in-jokes nobody outside the show would get. The smartest one I can think of went like this:
Character in Hobgoblins: “Oh my God!”
Mike: “If that’s your god, you’re having a severe ontological crisis.”
I’m pretty sure Mahaloth was saying “the Reformation joke isn’t that smart or obscure. The smartest or most obscure joke will probably be a reference to an obscure TV show or old movie.”
Well, if that’s the case, I don’t see why that would necessarily be the case either. Having seen an old TV show that no one else has seen isn’t by itself sufficient to constitute a smart reference.
Yeah. I mean, the Simpsons even has a Martin Luther joke in the Halloween episode where Lisa creates life. “I’ve created Lutherans!” IMHO, Luther and the theses are not exactly an obscure or particularly clever (although it’s certainly more clever than your usual jokes) reference, unless you were asleep during world history class in high school.
As for which MST3K references are really clever or obscure, I don’t know. There’s a lot of riffing that goes completely over my head.
There’s an episode riffing an old gangster movie with a title like “The Racket Girls” or some such that references, if I recall correctly, Minoqua, WI. Minoqua, WI is completely unremarkable except in that it’s a pleasant semi-touristy northwoods town with an excellent candy store and, well, my parents have a place up there.
That reminds me, I’ve heard at least one or two Tommy Barlett references in MST3K. Unless you’ve been to the Wisconsin Dells, or live somewhere where they’re heavily advertised, you’re not going to have a clue what the hell the guys are talking about. They do that quite a bit with Wisconsin/Midwestern references.
Yeah, I think local midwest references are going to be the most obscure. In The Creeping Terror they reference Minneapolis’s In the Heart of the Beast puppet theater. That’s pretty obscure.
See, the fact that I said, “*It will be *a reference to…” was supposed to indicate I was talking about what the obscure riff would come from or be about.
Hopefully, this won’t offend the OP, because I think it is a great idea for a thread, but… asking for “smartest” or “most obscure” riff are really two different things. Combining them into one thread is bound to be confusing.