The being a jerk part isn’t the smoking. It’s the delusion that your odor is not offensive, or that you have some bizarre field of entitlement that reaches out into the world. The being a jerk part is not noticing that someone smells bad, it’s the delusion that your opinion has merit other than to guide your choice of associations. Not all of our associations are entirely voluntary. Courtesy is unimportant when we are dealing exclusively with people who we find pleasing, it starts to matter more when that isn’t true.
And proclaiming you are an asshole is pretty stupid. It also does not change the facts of human interactions at all. If you proclaim yourself to be an asshole in order to assert some fundamental right to intrude on me, it simply won’t work. Yes, I agree, you are an asshole. No, your honest assessment of yourself has no particular merit.
Tris
By the way, if you own a cat, your home, your car, and your clothes smell like cat piss. I know you don’t smell it. I do.
Yeah, I’ve been burned a couple of times on eBay too. Sometimes the odor will dissipate if I set the item out in the storeroom, but sometimes not. Now, when I do actually browse on eBay, I check the listing for “smoke free”, and if it doesn’t say that, then I ask. I don’t browse nearly as much, though, because I HATE PayPal, and it seems that most sellers only accept PayPal. Oh well. eBay is no longer an online garage sale anyway, there’s too many professional sellers on it.
They didn’t use to bother me so much, except for the obvious nasty littering problem. That was annoying, but no more.
Then, while I was walking my puppy, the puppy snarfed up a cigarette butt, and before I could get it out of her mouth, she swallowed it. To be on the safe side, I called the vet, only to be told that because the puppy was so small, one cigarette butt had enough nicotine to send her into seizure and possibly kill her.
So, I drop everything to run her to the vet’s. They induce vomiting and then when everything has come up, give her an anti-emetic to stop the puking. Then they put her on fluids and watch her the rest of the day. The puppy’s day was ruined. My day was ruined, and one cigarette butt that could have been thrown away instead cost me $400 in vet’s bills.
Normally, I have a live-and-let-live attitude towards smokers. I’m overweight, so I know how aggravating it is to endure proselytizing by others. But this? That was four hundred dollars that could have gone towards bills, or visiting family, or paying for a couple of college courses. Instead, because some (most?) smokers can’t be bothered to police their butts, I’m out a substantial chunk of change, and my little dog was sick as a, well, dog.
So, fuck you, litterbug smokers. Pick up your goddamn butts.
This X 1000. As a rule, smokers throw their butts on the ground. I’ve seen threads where the majority of smokers claim that they never do this, but having seen a lifetime of smokers habits, I can either conclude that the members of this board are the rarest of the rarest of the rarest of the rare, or that the majority of you are lying through your nicotine-stained teeth. I have yet to see a smoker waiting for a bus or taxi carefully snub out a cigarette and stick it in a container they have on their person. Hell, most times they don’t ever put it out before they give it flick.
Oh, I would NEVER accuse you of being a meaning ivn.
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FACT:** You(smokers, not just you** ivn**) stink, you reek, and waft a nausea inducing cloud of nasty stench where ever you go. No amount of bitching back at us in return is going to change that. People are correct about this. If all you can do is cry about how everyone is being a big ole meany by complaining about your reek, either CHANGE it, or take your own lovely classily worded advice above.
You see, even if I did find the smell of smokers annoying, it’s such a minor and silly thing to get upset about that I would be embarrassed to display that level of wussitude to the public at large. Basically, you’re just an over-entitled pantywaist.
And I’m not crying about you calling me a meanie. I’m crying about you being so goddamn fucking boring and dull. Christ, you might as well save some time and just post “NO U R!” Seriously, you’re intellectually inferior. That’s why I don’t want you to post – you endumben us all with every word you type.
This time a gazillion. I live in a semi-arid area; every fall our lawns turn into tinder. Every time a smoker flicks his lit butt on my lawn, there is a chance he will burn my house down. And the butts getting flicked out of cars pisses me off, too - the smoker attitude of “the whole world is my ashtray” fills me with rage. Every day on the news - “Forest fire/grass fire/housefire started by careless smoking.”
Word. They should accept it. But we all should accept that we all offend in some way. Now, I don’t believe that I smell like cat piss all the time, but I believe that as on top of it as I thought I was, my friend caught me on a bad day, and she caught a waft of cat piss.
Now, since I had called her on her perfume reek, she had to keep my hypocrisy in check by calling me on my cat piss stench. Better if I had just sucked it up and not commented on the fact that her perfume is disgusting to me. Better if we all just put up with eachother’s stuff. If it isn’t a huge deal. Because scents are so subjective. I would rather smell a smoker’s stench than strong cologne. But in both cases, I’ve learned to just suck it up.
You jsut said everything I wanted to say. I have read lots of posts by smokers on the SDMB, and they all the what yo said, they always use the ashtray, and if there isn’t one, they make very sure it’s out, “field clean” the butt (seriously, I’ve seen this phrase several times…a cigarette butt is a gun, now?) and put it in their pocket to throw away indoors.
And yet I’ve never seen a smoker in real life do this. I see them flick their butts away when an ashtray is within arm’s reach! You don’t even have to take a fucking step, what is so hard about using it?
Oh, right…it’s “really cool” to act like a “big man/woman” and flick the butt onto the ground.
That’s my only real gripe with smokers. They are, on the average, the largest collective group of litterers in the world.
I see you misunderstood. I was explaining that I wouldn’t call you:
But don’t worry, I wouldn’t call you a meanie either.
Who here has discussed behaving thus out in the public at large? We’re venting specifically TO avoid griping to people out in public. Goodness you’re a bit slow on the uptake sometimes.
People out in the public unhappily ignore or make wide berths around stinky smokers. Not to mention the main point here is to dispel the illusion some smokers have that “Oh, I don’t smell, I just smoked outside”. Um yes, yes you do. It comes out of your pores, your breath, and stays in your hair and clothing.
My my, That thesaurus you got for Christmas is sure coming in handy, but whoever got you the fancy coffee should have made sure it was decaf. Poor baby, there, there. But “OH GOSH” you don’t want me to post, this is my last one, I won’t bother you anymore…poor thing.
Back at 'cha: I already posted that you should do this in public instead of being all passive aggressive and getting online where it’s safe. It’s pretty weaksauce to get all upset in the first place, but running to the web to post your angst? Shut up.
was not up to the task of defining your actual request clearly.
At any rate, complaining to actual stinky smokers in public? Why not?
Inefficient.
There’s this thing called society? The most efficient thing is to do what will allow it to run as smoothly as possible. And most people tend to let that be the status quo. It doesn’t mean they only think smokers stink when they’re on the internet. What you’ve got in a smoker IRL, is a person who happens to be engaging in an unpleasant habit, which they know is bad for them. In addition they also know it’s inconsiderate to others in their vicinity.
Most people being asked, scolded, requested…blah de blah, even in the nicest way, about stopping a rude behaviour , aren’t (9 times out of 10), going actually stop doing it. And in fact, doing so would probably create a TIME WASTING argument. Fun in and of itself maybe, but again, completely inefficient.
Reading things in black and white takes a lot of the emotionalism, the “sting” if you will, out of it, it’s still a dig, but it can for some, have more perspective that way. So whereas most smokers out IRL get ignored, if one comes to a forum like this and reads the comments and complaints, it could possibly make ONE of them think twice about their habits.
At the very least, it allows others to gripe about it. Which, bottom line is what this forum is for.
As a smoker I agree with you on the cigarette butts but to be fair it seems that businesses and the government are doing everything in their power to make it difficult to responsibly dispose of them.
For example my car doesn’t come with an ashtray and wasn’t even offered as an option. :rolleyes: So I have to bring a glass water with me when I drive somewhere so I can put out a cigarette. Just sayin.
