Smurfs. Communists?

Communists, Nazis, same thing. Let’s call 'em Communazis.

But really, I’m with GIGOBuster, they’re anarcho-syndicalists. They just don’t have enough smurfs to establish the syndicates yet. Once there are multiple smurfs willing to be the tailors and handymen, rather than just one smurf eponymously named for his profession, I suspect it would evolve that way.

Don’t go there RexDart. It should be enough to notice that both groups hated each other to death. As much as you wish, they were not the same.
http://www.britannia.com/history/euro/3/2_2.html

(Emphasis mine)

Drifting on the subject: take notice that this “Commie Smurf” conspiracy was debunked already.

It does make a great band name though! :slight_smile:

“Who’s that, then?”
“I dunno, must be a king.”
“Why?”
“He hasn’t got smurf all over him.”

King Arthur: Well, who is your lord?
Dennis’ Mother: We don’t have a lord.
King Arthur: What?
Dennis: I told you, we’re an anarcho-syndicalist commune, we take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week…

Only now I get that reference! :smiley: Since Papa Smurf does not give up power and still helps kings and princes, I think this Commie stuff is just a front! :stuck_out_tongue:

GIGOBuster, Hayek makes a pretty good case that both movement arose as a response to liberal democracy and capitalism. He also notes that many of the opponents to liberal democracy switched freely between communism and fascism throughout the 20’s. And from the libertarian point of view, both systems are merely different brands of statism, neither is better nor worse than the other. So from my POV, and that of all who believe in individualism, they really are the same thing. The common thread to both is collectivism, either Hitler’s nationalist “Volkism”, Mussolini’s “ideal man”, or communism’s complete suppression of the individual will.

We could easily describe the Smurfs as collectivists, and leave it at that.

On that last note, I agree RexDart.

This should be noticed though: Where else on the web you can get a serious ( :dubious: ) discussion incorporating the Smurfs, Monty Python, Nazis and Communism? Only in the Straight Dope!!!

You did not connect to Gargamel to any Judaic features. You did connect him to features which are associated to Jews by Antisemits.

Ergo: somebody who says that the smurfs are Antisemit fosters Antisemitism, since he is creating the connection between Greed and Jews.

I did read a long time ago some crackpot-fundie-Xtian book which claimed the Smurfs were part of the Satanic conspiracy.

Papa Smurf solves the smurfs problems with a potion = endorsing magic = Satanism.

Im not joking.

Well, there WAS that Flash cartoon “The Smurfs: The Lost Episode”.

But that was more of a hedonistic Roman orgy.

[rabid marxist]
Donald Duck is an Amerikan Imperialist tool!
[/rabid marxist]

Maybe I’m a little thick here…are you stretching the Gargamel = Jewish thing beyond its already-apparent absurdity, or are you calling me an anti-semite?

Sweet mother, all I did was mention a stereotype that ALREADY exists–not one that I hold to. (Y’ever see Mike Myers as the Jewish lady who says Barbara Streisand is like “buttah”? Lighten up.)

I don’t stretch anything because I never say that the cartoon is anti-semite in the first place.

However, all I am saying is that Gargamel features greed only, and in the cartoon no connection whatsoever had been made with Jews. Now, by saying that the cartoon is anti-semite because Gargamel is greedy, you postulate a connection between greed and Jews which was never in the cartoon.

Even if the stereotype already existed before you, nobody mentioned it in the cartoon. Gargamel is greedy, and so what? Why Jews, where are the Jews?

Well, of course nobody mentioned it in the cartoon. The whole thing’s a gag.

The Smurfs = Nazis (and concurrently, Gargamel = Jewish) is an OLD gag that, as far as I know, dates back to the 1980s and the “Castle Smurfenstein” video game. Nobody takes it seriously; there’s just a number of parallels that, if one wanted to go looking for them, could lead one to suspect that the Smurfs are a disguised Nazi metaphor. (Cf. the Pit thread about Johnny Hart and the B.C. cartoon. If you want to find bigotry, just go looking for it.)

Concurrent to it is the joking speculation that if the Smurfs are Nazis, then Gargamel must be Jewish, because the cartoon applies Jewish stereotypes to him. Do I think that Gargamel’s a Jew, even a badly portrayed one? No, and I’m sorry if my humor wasn’t clear enough. Do I think that Jews are greedy? No. Do some people? Sure. Me, personally, I think all people are greedy, so I hope that my prejudices are equal opportunity.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled confusion.