You can’t help yourself, can you? You just have to argue.
You bragged about how “mild” this was compared to other posts you made. I haven’t read them, so I’m just going by what you said. It’s definitely a shitty thing to be proud of.
Who do you think I’ve compared to Hitler? Reading comprehension’s not really your thing, huh?
You aren’t in charge of who gets to post or have an opinion or tell jokes you don’t get.
Kills ya, doesn’t it?
No no no no no no no!
I protest this warning. Take it back. I don’t want a warning. I have gone something like 30 years with no warnings, and I don’t want one now.
What’s this “warning” business all about anyway? Am I being deported from the SDMB?
You are giving me a warning for joking about removing the head of a hypothetical non-person in a rather weak analogy scenario? Really? My posts in this thread are perhaps the least offensive, least venomous of all. I’m guilty of nothing but trying to bring a little levity into the lives of my fellow Dopers—my cherished cyber-family. It’s because I’m a minority isn’t it!?!
You have a grudge against me because I disagreed with you in that woman-walking thread, is that it? I’m sorry, but I don’t think women should be collared with dog chokers and forced to walk on all fours in the mall—call me old fashioned.
I demand to speak to Cecil. I refuse to speak without my attorney.
A warning: now I’m no better than the rest of you schlubs. I blame you, Bo, for all this.
Where’s the part where I have or am trying to amass power over someone?
Oh, Tibby, you* already* weren’t any better than the rest of us schlubs.
Try to pick a side of the argument and stay on it, just for kicks. Upthread part of your definition of bullying included misusing power over those weaker (I paraphrase), now you deny you are a bully because you have no power over someone, so it can’t be bullying, qed, ipso locutor hoc amen.
By what logic does any poster here have power over Bo, that you do not have over another?
If I don’t agree with something, I feel free to say that. I’m not failing to suppress some urge or whatever brings you here.
You aren’t paraphrasing correctly, and I already covered that in my previous post.
"Bullying involves an imbalance of power and one person expressing their opinion, even rudely, has no inherent power over the other. In this case, the power comes from assembling a mass of people to chime in with insults, taking advantage of people’s desire for social acceptance and providing them admission to the group for the cheap cost of insulting the target.
Telling someone they are annoying you is not bullying. Meanly telling someone to quit annoying you is being a jerk, but not necessarily bullying. Getting others to join you or joining others in criticizing the harmless action with the intention of ‘making’ them stop or feel bad is bullying."
As you can see, I couldn’t care less whether anyone agrees with me, there is only one of me holding this opinion, and I have no inherent power over anyone here.
And all of us here who do not agree with you, or appreciate Bo’s “catchphrase”, how do we accumulate *power *via numbers on a message board? Me, and ten more of me, don’t have any more “power” than just one of me.
Are you seriously not understanding how eleven people are more powerful than one?
Steve Urkel. That’s who you remind me of. Except Steve had an IQ and a car.
This topic holds some significance for me. I started a thread on another message board shortly after Frank started the last Pit thread on Snowboarder Bo. In the thread I started, I asked whether Snowboarder Bo should be modded for being annoying.
2 days later, I was placed in that board’s suspension forum, where I’ve been posting for the last 3 3/4 years.
Was that thread coincidence? I don’t know.
But for that reason, among others, I can understand Bo’s point of view more than I can the other side. My situation was a little different because I wasn’t using a catchphrase or doing anything that was as definable as that.
To me, it comes down to a philosophical difference about what people want from their message board community. There seems to be a group of people who feel that conformity on a message board helps the place feel like a community. When I look at digs’ post #15 about how Bo’s actions makes him lose faith in humanity because this isn’t really a community, I couldn’t disagree more. To me, a great message board community is where differences are tolerated and even celebrated, up to a certain point.
Contrast the conformists with people who want to feel free to express themselves in ways that aren’t just like everyone else.
Of course, there has to be a limit as to how far out that expression can be, but the conformity group is IME, very vocal and can become amazingly nasty and vile when some people aren’t conforming to their standards. I’ve been amazed at their tactics and the levels they will go to try to force people to conform. IMO, when that group becomes very dominant, the overall group can become very vanilla and stifled. I’m glad to see that hasn’t happened at the SDMB.
The reason I’m inadvisedly dipping my toe into this thread is because I’m interested in hearing from some of the articulate people here exactly why they’re annoyed and whether they think pacifying everyone’s annoyance makes for a better community. I’ll add here that a lot of people in this thread have quirks that they’re known for. Would they be willing to stop those behaviors?
I’ve gone so far as to read some studies on what annoyance is. It’s amazingly hard to define and really comes down to personal preference, from what I can tell.
In all the threads I’ve participated in about annoying behaviors, I’ve seen mocking, sarcasm, insult, parody, analogy, and lots of hyperbole, all in amazingly angry tones. I’ve NEVER seen anyone explain why, in this context, the behavior is annoying and why giving into that annoyance is beneficial for a message board community.
No, I’m not. Explain to me how 11 people (assuming it’s not just me and 10 socks) on a message board, NOT the real physical world, but on a message board, are more powerful than one. Do you think we’re going to crush Bo under our combined weight?:smack:
Of course ‘annoying’, like ‘pornography’, is hard to define and highly subjective. I’m not really one of the hard liners here, I just find it witless. Also, the word “everybody” in your post above. If 90% of the community tell you they are bothered by something, you should probably consider ceasing. Sure, I can drive my car up and down the street with the stereo precisely 2 dBs below the legal definition of actionable, but I’d still be an asshole to do it.
I don’t really know what this means, but it amuses me. Not just three, but THREE AND THREE-QUARTERS years in a suspension forum! Oh, the humanity!
Not all power is physical. Can you really not know that?
Look at how “everyone wants you to stop” is being presented as a reason why someone should stop doing something. Why would that be a reason if the opinion of “everybody” is not assumed and accepted to carry more weight than a lone opinion?
You really think that many people who post here give a rat’s ass what poster on an anonymous message board think of them.
a) I’m with Groucho on this: I wouldn’t want to belong to any club that would have me as a member.
b) Truth be told there are a few posters on these boards who I have learned to respect and I would actually care a bit about what they think of my posts be they anonymous pixels or not. But no offense to any one in this thread, none of you are in that small group.
c) If anything in many threads I pride myself in being radically centrist enough that I am arguing against both sides.
If anyone is depending on coming here to get their in-group validation then are in pretty deep shit in their life.
SB should stop with his annoying catch phrase simply because doing things that you know annoy a fair number of other people around you for no particular reason (other than potentially to annoy) is a jerky thing to do. Full stop. Not because there is any consequence for him continuing. Not because one or twenty anonymous posters on a MB ask him nicely or call him names, but because it is what a reasonable person does when multiple others tell them that the thing they are doing that they are doing for no particular reason bothers them. It is how actual humans get along.
He’s decided that he does not want to replicate that actual humans getting along behavior in his MB behavior. Maybe he’s also a jerk in real life but some people do live by different rules when they are anonymous pixels than in real life. In many internet environs being a jerk and an asshole is not only the norm but the ideal. The different sort of behavior includes the response to jerks … I readily admit I would not sing an “I’m annoying asshat” song in real life … unless I was Trump maybe.
But no, we are not a social group that matters. Acceptance by (the vast vast vast majority of) this group means less than fruit fly shit. Each of us should (and for each of your sakes I hope do) care more about what the cashier at the grocery store thinks of you than what most posters here do.
Sheesh.
I don’t care and you may not care either, but a lot of people here clearly do.
People even care what people who don’t even exist think of them: look at all the psychological studies where the subject is convinced that there is another subject in a different room who is affected by their actions at a computer terminal, but that is a lie.
Just as difficult as defining what one person finds annoying is quantifying on a message board how many people find it annoying.
In this case, while I haven’t counted, I don’t even think 90% of the people in this thread have expressed annoyance with Bo’s behavior. I very highly doubt 90% of the active members are annoyed. I wouldn’t be surprised if a good percentage of the 5,409 active members wouldn’t even know who Bo is. Also, keep in mind that the people who post in these threads are people most likely to be annoyed. People who aren’t annoyed are less likely to post their opinion about it because it doesn’t bother them.
Nah, it’s not like that at all. The reason I wrote it like that is because I’m aware of the date, and because Bo and others in the thread talked about that thread being 3 years ago. I suppose I could have said the same. But it was almost 4 years ago. If I had rounded to 4 years, it would have seemed like a disconnect, so I just used his convention with more specificity. I didn’t really think anyone would find it that significant. I really just mentioned it to explain my interest in the topic.