The Chamberlain family was not 'way out in the wilderness, miles from anywhere. They were car camping at an organized campsite that was popular with families with young children. Clearly, they did not assume their children would be in danger. Either they didn’t think of the campsite as part of “dingo habitat”, or they didn’t think of dingos as dangerous animals.
They were, of course, wrong, and tragically so. We can see that now. But up until the moment that the dingo entered the tent, the Chamberlains could not see it.
It is not a place where rude behavior is accepted ???
Look who is talking !!!
This is a place where people such as you insult those newbies who are not part of the ‘community’ and then close ranks.
Your use of profane insults is right in front of you. You are rude and so is DianaG who took exception to me not accepting that according to her words :" the world is full of people who simply cannot accept that Shit Happens"
Then she backpedalled and said that she had said ‘sometimes shit happens’.Yo
This is nothing new: that the some members of the 'community’are bullies and don’t accept that newcomers don’t show diffidence to them, that they don’t accept bullying and insults and profanity. “Newbies have to tread carefully”, precisely, bend over and take it, right ?
Not me.
The solution is simple, I just ignore them, Eventually one finds people who don’t have their heads up their waste orifices and think they rule the roost.
You can have the last word, the last in a chain of profanity of course
“This is not a place where rude behavior is accepted” Indeed :rolleyes:
I don’t blame the Chamberlains at all, nor I blame the Rangers because at that point in time no one could have foreseen it.
What angers me is to shrug one’s shoulders and do nothing to prevent a similar tragedy from happening, for as some poster so eloquently put it : “Shit Happens". Yes, but if we can’t prevent from shit ever happening, which is impossible, we ought to prevent it from happening again.
I remember Tony Abbott’s comment about the death of an Australian soldier in Afghanistan : “Shit happens”. He was mute when asked for a clarification of his colourful comment, and rightly so, for how could he defend such a callous remark? Saying “shit happens” not only means : there is nothing one can do about this sort of incident but also implies: “I couldn’t care less”.
Only because I am feeling benign, I will suspend my rule of ignoring for all eternity one on whom I bestowed a 'chao". But only this once. This is not a conversation.
We seem to be interpreting what is being said rather differently.
I see people saying that the Chamberlains shouldn’t be blamed because, at the time, people either didn’t know there were dingos in the area or didn’t realize dingos could be dangerous to small children - maybe both. So those who are saying that even if Lindy Chamberlain didn’t kill little Azaria, she was still somehow responsible for letting the dingo get to the baby, are assuming the mother thought the way we think about it now, after the fact, and knew her baby was in danger. Clearly, she didn’t.
I don’t see people saying that nothing should ever be done again to prevent dingos from killing children. Clearly people need to be aware of the risk of whatever wild animals are in the areas where they live and where they take vacations.
But… well, in about a week we’ll be taking a short trip to a seaside cabin. The cabin is on an island, and we know there are adders (venomous snakes) on the island. Now, this cabin has been in my husband’s family for over half a century, and during that time, no one has been bitten by a snake. But say this is the year it happens. Does that mean we have to stop visiting the cabin, because we can say “shit happens” the first time but after that if it happens again that’s just carelessness? Does it mean we have to start wearing stout rubber boots every time we step outside the cabin? Or does it just mean shit happens, and once every 50 years is just a freak accident?
But you may end up concluding that - short of unacceptable/impossible measures like exterminating dingoes or banning camping - you can’t. So you end up telling parents to watch their children carefully (as seems to have pretty much been the case with Azaria) and leave it at that - knowing that you haven’t prevented (indeed, can’t prevent) this from happening again.
IOW “shit happens” can be taken as “Let’s not try to learn any lessons” or as “Unfortunately, risks cannot be entirely eliminated.”
I looked at the join date because Syme made that crack about expecting more from “veteran posters.” How would you have any sense of what a veteran poster on this board should behave like when you’re brand new here yourself?
Banning Dingos? What, you arrest and deport any that show up?
I believe the worst case scenario is, since we are speaking of human life, you can’t ban, kill, deport, relocate all of them. There may very well be one very hungry one left. So you must still watch your children whether anything is done about dingoes or not.
One point, and I don’t think it has been raised yet, is that the Chamberlains were aware of the danger of local wildlife. They had slept in the car with the children a few nights before for safety (taken from her interview) and they thought no danger existed where they were.
They did take precautions where they thought it necessary.
Obviously they were more comfortable on this night with other campers around.
And a challenge: Wiki gives all the details of the court cases etc, but can anyone find online an accurate description of the events of the night?
That bolded word? It doesn’t mean what you think it means.
For whatever reason, you simply can’t see past the phrase “shit happens” to the actual content of my argument. It’s unfortunate, but I have better things to do on a lovely afternoon than to let it be *my *problem.
Syme, the issue is not newbies vs. old-timers per se – it’s people who are following the rules vs. those who are not. People who have been around for a while tend to have a better idea of what the rules are.
Our bottom line: don’t be a jerk.
That includes no direct personal insults of other posters outside the forum known at the Pit.
The Pit is also the only place you’re allowed to tell people they’re on your ignore list.
I encourage you to read our registration agreement and take a look at our rules and etiquette if you wish to stick around for a while – which apparently you don’t feel strongly about. Your choice.
twickster, MPSIMS moderator
PS: I’d also appreciate a response to my inquiry about why you’re posting things here that have appeared elsewhere online under other usernames. check your email.
I have pictures of my kids when hey were toddlers, playing in IIRC the Suwanee River in Florida. We were vacationing. In a very cautiously staged shot, my kids are seen playing in the water with a big BEWARE ALLIGATORS! sign in the foreground.
Any gator deaths in Florida, other than Chihuahuas?
Go to the corner of Arch and 11th, caddy corner to the bus stop. On the light post directly in front of you there will be an apartment for rent sign.
Read every third word, beginning with “immediately”.
Along the bottom of the posted sign is a fringe of phone numbers, all the same except for one. Dial this number, substituting 403 for the listed area code.
You will receive further instructions at this point. Follow them.
We’ve never taken him camping, but as the parent of a 2-1/2 year old toddler, I concur that there’s nothing particularly difficult about taking an infant anywhere
