So did Lee Oswald act alone or not?

Maybe it wasn’t anything. Maybe it was just an empty bag. No one saw them in the bag; no one saw the rifle in the bag either. And then again, maybe he took the rods with him when he left the TSBD and discarded them later. Who knows?

The important thing is that there is no possible way the “bag” contained the Carcano.

That’s assuming the witness estimates of the size of the package are correct, right?

Unless the witness was mistaken.

The rifle is 40 inches long, 35 inches when disassembled. The witness said a couple of feet. He was off by a foot and this is what you have to stay that Oswald didn’t kill Kennedy?

It was his rifle.

It was missing from his house.

It had his finger prints on it.

The bullet came from this gun.

If you just don’t want to believe it, in spite of overwhelming evidence, just say so. But this is such a non-starter it’s not worth this much discussion.

Except the people who ran into him on the second floor of the TSBD after the shooting didn’t see him carrying a bag and/or curtain rods. (Hey, maybe he was carrying special invisible curtain rods.)

Because there’s no way you can fit a 34.8 inch rifle into a 38 inch bag.

Just picking nits, but I’m pretty sure it was Oswald’s palm print that was found on the rifle, instead of finger prints.

That’s correct of course, just thought it was a distinction without a difference.

So what.

When LHO got in the car that morning, Frazier couldn’t have cared less about the length of his package :wink: He was worried about getting to work, what to do at work, what he was having for lunch, if he has 15 cents for a coke and if the wife was going to give him some lov’n that night. The length of LHO’s package, he didn’t give a hoot about.

About three hours later it was the most important thing in his life, but not then.

How big is that box on your co-worker’s desk you saw this morning? Do you know plus or minus a few inches? Of course not. One of a million things you barely noticed today.

It’s the same thing here.

Since you want to speculate wildly, why did Oswald retrieve curtain rods, and where did he get them from? There was no place in his really small apartment to hang them, he hadn’t spoke to his landlord about redecorating, no curtain rods were ever found in the TSBD, no curtain rods were missing from the garage where he retrieved the rifle (but, surprise surprise, the rifle - later found in the TSBD - was missing from the garage), etc.

If you are just going to “what-if” this very plausible detail (i.e. Oswald brought the rifle to work), then why don’t you apply the same scrutiny to your conspiracy theory?

I was 16 in 1981. I do not recall where I was when the news came in that the President was shot. (Was that a school day?)

My apologies, I imagine the conversation has moved on by now.

Thanks I have never seen this footage before. There are some videos where I did not see it from the front and in such detail. Horrible.

We know that Oswald claimed to his wife that he had taken a sniper shot at a retired general at his home.

George Bush, at the time a successful oilman, was a Rotary Club luncheon in Tyler, Texas where he had been invited to speak, when the news came that the president had been shot in Dallas. By mutual agreement, they canceled the speech, but there are numerous witnesses to the fact that Bush was there. Barbara Bush was with him in Tyler, and at a beauty parlor when the news broke.

Jean Hill was a fabricator who continued to embellish her story over the years as she became more and more popular with JFK assassination buffs. On the afternoon of the assassination, she was interviewed by a local television reporter:

Q. “Did you see the person who fired the . . .”
A. “No . . . I didn’t see any person fire the weapon . . .”
Q. “You only heard it?”
A. “I only heard it.”

Jean Hill in 1991:

More here.

Never mind those niggling details, can you tell me how wide the windows were in Oswald’s rooming house were, in reference to the curtain rods he was carrying that day?

Can you?

Can you??!?!?

Thought not.

Oswald was not the shooter. Q.E.D.

There are numerous photos and films that show the jump seat Connally was sitting on was several inches lower than the rear seat Kennedy was sitting on. Likewise, numerous photos and films of the motorcade, especially those taken from above street level, show that Connally’s right side was several inches inboard of Kennedy’s right side, due again to the position of the jump seat he was on.

Josiah Thompson, author of the pro-conspiracy Six Seconds in Dallas, did the math, and debunked that claim.

You mean Oswald’s palm print was found on his rifle, it appeared in his place of work, and the only way this could possibly happen is if he had took it there himself?

Have you people never heard of planting evidence, a particularly favourite trick of intelligence agencies?

Regarding your photo evidence, Walloon, none of the “numerous photos” are especially clear because either they were black and white, or because they were taken at an angle. Truthfully, to my eyes, in none of them does Connally look noticably inboard from JFK, since he seems to have his arm on the top of the door without looking uncomfortable about putting it there. The jump seat photo with the limo door open is a little clearer in this regard, no so much from the point of it being inboard, but from the point of it being lower. However, I don’t recall running across this picture before, to be honest. Understand that I’m not claiming that it’s a fake or anything, just that I had never seen it before.

Having seen it now, though, does it affect your theory of the assassination? Besides, it doesn’t matter if Connelly could lean to the right, against the limo’s door. At the moment of the shooting, he was not leaning against the side, but JFK was.

Not necessarily. The angle this photo was taken from probably makes the real measurement inboard look exaggerated. As well, I understand that the rear seat could be lowered and raised. It would be interesting to know exactly what height it was at on November 22, 1963, and where that would put JFK in relation to Connally.

Strangely, that’s not how it appears at Z-155 or so; I guess that seeing a picture of the limo and it’s occupants on Houston Street may prove this.