There’s nothing “wrong” with these people. The fact that they choose this lifestyle is thier right, and you have no reason to label any portion of it wrong.
The fact that you’re not interested in or disapprove of the BDSM lifestyle colors your opinions of the OP’s story. In fact, the OP’s bias seems pretty apparent, despite his attendance to multiple BDSM events. I think his seeing a Mastered dog probably shocked him a little, but to make a judgement of wrongness based on this encounter seems a little ludicrous.
As for his question as to how low another can go, I really don’t get it. Lower than what? You? Me? jarbabyj? This person chooses to participate in this lifestyle in the way that gives him the most satisfaction. If seeking happiness, sexual pleasure, or the feeling of love and security is “low” then I’m so far down in the gutter I’m never getting out. And most of the rest of you are there with me.
And I’ve got to disagree with Blanx. So they showed up at a non-BDSM party with the “dog” in tow. Big fucking deal. There’s nothing rude about it. They choose to live thier BDSM lifestyle in the open instead of hiding it.
In the BDSM world, people work out the scene beforehand and devise safety words so the bottom can let the top know if the play is getting too rough. Sane play means having similar safeguards, a concern for the sub’s welfare, and no real damage done. When people are tied up, it’s usually done in a way that the knot can be untied quickly if necessary.
And for the record, now that I’ve read dorkus’ further expansion on the situation, I agree that exhibiting their sexual behavior in public was RUDE AS HELL…
But if they want to play Davy and Goliath at home, there’s nothing WRONG with it.
welby- It isn’t the lifestyle that is wrong, it’s the doing it in someone else’s house without permission that’s the wrong part.
You’d agree with me that BDSM is primarily about sexuality (not necessarily sex, but sexuality). Why is it unreasonable for these folks to stop engaging in their sexuality for the length of time necessary to have dinner with friends (and some strangers)?
Remember- sex is like real estate- it’s all about location, location, location.
If I were having a dinner party (unrelated to BDSM), and some of my friends who are active in the BDSM lifestyle came over in full leather/collar getup, bet your ass I’d be right pissed off at their rudeness. If I’ve invited them over for sex, that’s diffferent, but I’ve invited them over for flipping pot roast!!!
Is there no room in your world for a little decorum?
There was an Awful Link of the Day at SomethingAwful in early October that I wish I could link to, but it’s long gone now, thanks to SA-generated traffic. This woman had set up a site mainly dedicated to her complete submission to her husband. She called their marriage a “24/7/TPE” relationship, which evidently stands for 24/7 Total Power Exchange. She made it very clear that it’s not a game for her, she considers herself to be the property of her husband. She even said that his brand was on her thigh:eek: Have you ever been horrified by something, and yet strangely turned on in spite of yourself? It’s a strange experience.
Okay, so they lead this lifestyle, and it’s their choice, fine. But they have a child, which they are raising together. How do you feel about a child being brought up in this environment? Where one parent’s wish is another’s command, no matter what it is? I’m not saying the state should rush in and take children away, but isn’t there a concern that a kid in that house might grow up warped?
And again, I’m not talking about bedroom games behind closed doors. She described how, when her husband comes home from work, her reward if she’s done her chores to his satisfaction is that she gets to sit with him on the couch, instead of on the floor. This is obviously an aspect of their lives that goes way beyond the bedroom.
My mind turns to a Jeffery Dalmer story. One of his victiums (a young oriental man) escaped and begged the police for help. They decided it was a homosexual lover’s argument and gave him back to Jeff.
Who ate him I suppose.
How would you KNOW it was consentiual?
You firend put you in a very awkward social situation. Re-evaluate your friendship.
I think the dog needs to see a doctor. No, not a vet, but some sort of head doctor. Probably a whole team of doctors. If he does this 24/7 this is not some kink and it is not a lifestyle choice it is a mental disorder.
If he does not do it 24/7 and is completly able to snap out of it and talk like a human then it is a kink. Now part of that kink may be acting this way with strangers but if someone chose to use me to give themselves sexual gratification with out my permission then that would be, oh what do we call that, oh yeah sexual assualt.
People there did not know about this or ‘set boundries’ befor the show. Yes even audience members need to know befor hand and know the limits of the show.
I have to agree with the critics in that it was definitely creepy that other people were, for all intents and purposes, unwillingly dragged in to their roleplay. That’s not to say there’s anything wrong with what they’re actually doing, but the way they behaved at this get-together was rude and creepy.
Think of it this way: society in general sees nothing wrong with married hetero folks having sex, but would you want some guy going into detail about the hows and whys of their sexual exploits at a dinner party? Would you want to have to see them make out passionately while trying to eat an appetizer?
The unwilling party here is the witnesses who have been drawn into this fantasy. If you want to act like a dog and be owned by somebody who sticks needles in you, fine. However, if you start telling people about this and acting out these sort of fantasies in front of others, you’re going to be considered creepy at best.
So would it be wrong to show your scat and golden showers kink at a dinner party?
Just asking.
I don’t think their fetish is wrong, but I sure as hell think they are fucking weird. Still, different strokes for different folks, but there is a time and place for everything. The master and his doggy were rude and inappropriate.
I’m also a little creeped about the "he’s not a boy, but. . . ". Is the guy mentally disabled in anyway?
No NOTHING wrong with what they do, as long as it is consensual. Does not even need to be kept private if they don’t want to.
But…
Bringing a dog to a dinner party, without informing the host is wrong. Displaying a kink that migh embariss the host or guests is wrong. What they do is fine, doing it in front of strangers in a private setting without permission is wrong.
A kink that most people have is masturbation, who here would consider that normal dinner party behaviour?
First of all, I agree that BDSM has a great degree of sexuality associated with it. Would you expect your gay friends to not show affection while having dinner at your house? I would hope not, because that is thier choice in sexuality. If you were gay, would you expect straight friends to do the same?
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I don’t recall the OP mentioning Doghood going down on his Master in front of the guests.
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Why? Because of how they’re dressed? Because it makes you uncomfortable? Can they not eat pot roast dressed in leather and collars?
What Keithmac said. I don’t care what they do. At least he was toilet trained. A birthday party of a friend had some nasty drag queen ™ show up with her dog who later took a shit on the host’s bed. The nasty drag queen ™ just laughed as she was leaving. Talk about horrible manners.
How do you behave? I’ve no idea about your lifestyle, but if you’ve ever shown affection to anyone or anything in public, “in front of others” so to speak, then you’re guilty of the same.
Granted, the BDSM lifestyle and many aspects of it are not popularly accepted, and therefore may seem rude or crazy to you. I can understand that, but that doesn’t make them wrong.