I’d be uncomfortable if guests came to by dinner party in swimwear. There’s nothing wrong with swimwear; if I were hosting a luau at my beach house, in fact, their attire would be spot on. But just as bikinis and speedos would be inappropriate and rude at my dinner party, so too would leather and collars.
That is not a matter of intolerance, except in the most strict sense of the word. Or to put it another way: I am rightfully intolerant of certain things, into which category this falls.
Feel free to be affectionate, regardless of your orientation. However, affection does not equal coming to my house and behaving as a dog. Not to get too far afield into the area of sexuality, but a person is whatever orientation he or she is at all times.
This does not mean that they have to express that orientation at all times.
Just because I am a hetero male does not mean that I have to express that sexual identity 24/7.
If the master/pet are unable to refrain from engaging in sexual behavior for the 3 hours or so it takes to eat, they are 1) rude, and 2) not welcome in my house.
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My example wasn’t precise enough- I should have said “coming dressed in leather/collars and whipping each other.” what they’re wearing isn’t so much the problem as the behavior. Some things are just not appropriate in certain circumstances.
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TOLERANCE???
WTF? where did you get the impression that I was intolerant of BDSM? I’m just asking the hypothetical jackasses to conduct themselves in a polite fashion while at my home for the purpose of having dinner. Do as you will in other locales, and even at my home on other occasions, but I’d prefer not to have to turn the hose on my dinner guests.
For the record, the OP pointed out the crotch sniffing after I made my previous post. If the kid was sniffing stranger’s cotches, I can understand the reaction. I stand corrected.
Point taken and conceded.
Probably the same place you got the idea that I had little or no decorum. Out of my ass. Little different when the flippant comment is directed at you in stead of by you, isn’t it?
welby- considering that you were only in agreement that the behavior of these two people was out of line after the information regarding the crotch-sniffing came out, I’d say I didn’t get the idea that you have no decorum out of my ass.
Whatever the color, I’m sure it’s not decorus in your blighted vision blanx.
However, we weren’t discussing my decorum in this thread until you brought it up, we were discussing Doghood and his Master. Just because I didn’t find anything majorly wrong with him bringing his “dog” to the dinner, in the context provided by the OP, doesn’t mean I have no decorum, it means I disagreed with you.
So yes blanx, you of the irreproachable behavior and properly colored sky, you did pull it out of your ass. Please put it back.
welby- I can imagine all sorts of things in this universe, but the idea that someone, i.e. you, could think that
was no big deal given the scenario as laid out in the OP just hurts my head.
My behavior is by no means irreproachable, and, to reiterate, I am not judging these people on their kink. I am judging them on their complete lack of boundaries.
blanx please point out where in the OP dorkusmarlorkus complained of the behavior as being rude. His major complaint is that it was weird and didn’t fit his sexual standards.
In fact the OP simply stated that he went out to dinner with a friend. He didn’t say it was a dinner party. It’s entirely possible (but unlikely, I admit) that the Master called up and asked “What’s the appropriate dress?” and was told “Whatever you’re comfortable with.”
Further, it took him several posts to describe the scenario in its entirety, and as more facts became apparent, I changed my opinion of the situation. See, I’m capable of evaluating the words and opinions of others and admitting I’m wrong.
In fact, I pointed out in this thread that there were several posts between my first reading and my post. Typically I’ll compose a post while I do other things at work, so it’s not uncommon for me to find that a point has been made already after I post, or that the OP has been expanded.
You, however, felt a need to question my decorum, which has nothing to do with Doghood or his master. My decorum is not your business anyway. As a result, I made a flippant remark designed to upset you, as yours appeared to be designed to upset me.
So, to reiterate, you pulled your comment out of your ass and need to put it back where it belongs.
Welby, would it be okay for someone to whip out his dick and pee on his consensual partner after the main course? What if the two of them were into golden showers? What if they were into scat? Would it be okay (in the words of Tenacious D) to “drop trou and squeeze out
a Cleveland Steamer on my chest?” What if Dogboy starts humping your leg after he sniffs your crotch?
Would you consider this to be on the same tolerance level as holding hands?
With few exception, I am very tolerant of the kinks that float your boat, but there is a right and wrong time and place to display them. I think this is what everyone has been trying to make you understand.
These two freaks (yes, “freaks” in JMHO, thankyouverymuch) were rude and inappropriate.
No, welby. It may have read that way but I definately found his behavior rude. I am not the best writer at times. I don’t really care what they do in private. If you take someone to a party they are expected to behave human unless it is a party specifically designed to cater to them. This was not the case for dinner.
I was a little put off by the mention that Dog-boy and his master were telling everyone about the whole “pins in the body thing” also.
If people want to get fucked up the ass by a flaming orange, 14" dildoe, that’s just swell, but I would really prefer if they didn’t bring it up at dinner.
I fully agree. And since I’m into BDSM myself, it’s not like I’m prejudiced.
Some people may like to be publically humiliated. It doesn’t make it OK, though, IMO.
Please note above posts where I retract my opinion and point out that I now agree with the majority. My issue at this point is blanx presuming on my decorum because of my opinion.
DMM I can understand that you found it rude. I was posting based on the thought that you found it “interesting in a train wreck sort of way,” which is sort of what I got from your initial posts. More a feeling that you found it fascinating rather than rude.
So, for the record:
I was wrong wrong wrong Master and his dog boy are evil.
I disagree. Social conventions are pretty arbitrary, but ought to be respected in most cases. There’s nothing inherently wrong in being naked, nevertheless veryfew people would state that’s it’s OK to show up at a friend’s in the nude.
The comparison with gays is IMO totally inadequate, because in their case, the issue isn’t the behavior in itself, but the people who are engaged in it. It’s perfectly socially acceptable for lovers to hold hand, except when these people are of the same sex (or of a difference race, or whatever). In other words, it’s discriminating.
But in the situation described in the OP, there’s no discrimination. Posters aren’t saying that it’s OK for some people to pretend they’re dogs, but not OK for some other people. They’re saying that it’s not OK, for anybody, to do so, in some circumstances. To take an example, would you say that if an homosexual couple is caught making love in the middle of a busy street and they’re arrested, that constitute discrimination against homosexuals? I t doesn’t because an heterosexual couple, in the same situation, would end up in the police station too.
If you don’t have any issue with people acting on their fantaisies in a public setting, that’s fine. But you can’t expect that people will react in a similar way, let alone demand it.
Sure, the limits between an acceptable and an unacceptable behavior, between decency and undecency are essentially arbitrarily drawn. On a french beach, a man noticing a topless woman won’t give her a second glance (well…maybe he will…but not that kind of second glance). The same man noticing the same woman, still topless, walking down the Champs-Elysees is likely to call the police. Completely arbitrary. But most certainly, you too have accepted/integrated the major part of these arbitrary social norms.
Well, I guess seriously disturbed is one way to state it.
And maybe I missed it, but are the first poster to question the master’s sanity? Everyone seems to be worried about dogboy. Well, imho, if you send one in for therapy, better check them both.
If someone told me they stuck a hundred needles into his dog (as in real dog, like the family pet), I would call the SPCA. What in the hell is that all about?! Oh yeah, consent.
Like many of you this is not the first extreme sex/behavior story I’ve heard. Jeeze, I been around some pretty bizarze stuff. But, the master and the slave should take it easy. Someone is going to get hurt.
One story I heard had involved Saran Wrap, and some guys scrotum, and 911 being called. And when the 911 person got there he called the police. Seems that even thought things were consensual, a sane person is suppose to know the difference between sex play, and putting someone’s life endanger.
I guess that’s why so many BD/SM ad say “safe and sane only.”