So I went to my first big "swinger's party"...

Of course not. But I was there and I know it wasn’t the case. I mean, the “full extent” of my disability is I can’t move my legs. I can do everything else. And I’m not stupid, I know when a girl is into me. She was into me. Something happened with her husband to change that.

Everyone uses condoms. It’s not “mandated” because that would be unenforceable. But the lifestyle is very pro-protection.

I did, you’re right. But once we were there, I wasn’t bothered by it at all. It seemed like a natural move, considering how crowded the bed was.

Agreed. But why would you think I was not in possession of those attributes? :D;)

I think you’re right. :smack:

I could not care less whether you take me seriously or even read my posts. My recommendation to anyone to experience this was not a recommendation for anything sexual. It was simply as a human experience.

Where have I contradicted myself? :confused:

I realize that when you know something it isn’t easy to sway you from your certainty until you decide for yourself that an idea needs reevaluating.
I hope you and your GF got out of this what you hoped for and more.

Why are you saying this? This party was fun, a good thing. The silliness with the couple was nothing more than a blip on an otherwise good time. My recommendation was not to start swinging, it was simply to attend a swinger’s party.
I think many here are overestimating the extent to which my disability hinders my sex life. This woman was fawning all over me the entire night. I don’t have any “bad surprises” when I take my clothes off.

I don’t think anyone’s challenging the fact that you’re objectively quite clearly too sexy for your shirt. But, different strokes for different folks and all that. I was questioning your suggestion that physical attributes (whether yours or anyone else’s) could not be a factor in a meat-market environment where people are basically sizing each up as casual fuck buddies. It was the first time you got naked with somebody you had known an hour or two, and yet you understand everything that was going through her mind?

I do not believe I ever made such a sweeping statement (or suggestion). It would be ridiculous to say that physical attributes aren’t the number one factor with swingers. All I said was in this specific situation, they absolutely were not a factor in how things went bad. And no, I didn’t know everything going on in her head. What is it you imagine might have changed her mind about me? Because other than a vague, “you use a wheelchair!” notion, I don’t understand what it is specifically that you believe might have turned her off physically.

Are you aware that Ambivalid is a body builder? Granted he has issues with his legs, as in, he can’t move them, but based on pictures of him the rest of his body is significantly above average when it comes to fitness and looks. I suppose she could have gotten cold feet at some point but given he uses a wheelchair to get around it’s not like she would have gotten into bed with him not knowing he has a disability.

Who knows what was going on with the other party(s) involved?

Not to, well, bust your balls too much, but there’s something a little comical about saying, “everything about the swingers party was great except the sex.”

Nobody’s saying he’s not capable. Just that some people might find a disability a turnoff. That’s all. It’s not meant to be an insult, just reality.

If my disability turned her off, she wouldn’t have gotten naked in bed and begun blowing me in the first place. How stupid.

Why?? It was the theatrics of it all, the other-worldlyness (not a word, I know) of it. There was a lot of fun to be had without engaging in any sex acts. And the sex-issue didn’t arise until the very end of the night.

She wasn’t talking about my capability. She was talking about my appeal.

Wow! Not for me! Obviously, not for the other woman, either. I feel bad for her.

I’m with Ambivilad on this. I think I’ve seen pictures of him back when he used his real, or close to, name on this board, and although he’s not my preferred gender, he seemed obviously attractive. I find it hard to believe that someone would be into him when his disability is plainly there to see, and then suddenly not be into him because of his disability. Much more likely that something else was going on.

It was awesome
The evening was ruined

This couple clearly wasn’t cut out for the lifestyle
A lot of other couples have disparate interest levels and unhealthy communication WRT the lifestyle
Everyone should do it

They wouldn’t tell you what happened
You don’t know what happened
You do know what didn’t happen

I believe you went, I believe you’ve given an accurate account of the events from your perspective, but you write in the style of bad fiction and when anyone tells you there are plot holes you get defensive and write apologetics.

Read for comprehension, guy. I never advocated the swinging lifestyle to anyone. All I fucking did was recommend going to a party. :rolleyes:

Have to admit, think that was pretty clear to me; recommendation for everyone to go to one for a look, but not necessarily for everyone to get involved.

Curious, you say full of couples and single women? Are single men not allowed or something, or just of no interest to you so not listed?

I think there are a lot of reasons for this, but the biggest one is that you’ll end up with the ratio being 95% men.

I’m curious about the setting. This must have been a regular hotel, yes? One that hosts swingers parties?

If not a ‘normal’ hotel, then what type of facility?
mmm

My husband and I actually met in a place like that, each having been in similar places many, many times. But as a couple … no. He would get a whole lot of unwanted attention and I’d be bored.

Have you seen a photo of Ambivalid? If there’s any “lack of attraction,” it’s due to her disability … blindness.