So I went to my first big "swinger's party"...

600 people x $50= $30,000.

$50 per couple, not person.

And some of you seem to think that only because there isn’t a sex convention, there won’t be sex going on anywhere other than beds, with everybody between the sheets, a man and a woman, and the woman keeps her bra on. Boy do I have news for you…

Do you really think those same bodily fluids don’t need to be cleaned up after “normal” patrons leave? Anyone who’s ever worked in a hotel can tell you horror stories about the condition people have left their rooms in.

There’s a really cheap, obvious joke to be made here, but I think it’s high time we all look beyond that sort of juvenile humor, and make a concerted, communal effort to raise the tone of this forum and maintain a high— decidedly adult— level of discourse.

Oh, come on, now!

I’m inclined to believe him if he says that there aren’t any unpleasant surprises when he takes off his clothes. There are tons of other things that could have gone wrong.

Um, hotel staff have to clean up jizz routinely. People have sex in hotels all the time.

As for renting the hotel, that seems pretty normal. Here are some reference points from my experience:

When I was a kid my parents and their friends gossiped about a local hotel that was rented by swingers once a year. That was a smallish conference hotel.

I have a friend who rents hotels for fetish events. They have some trouble buying liability insurance, and some hotels say “no”, but in general they have no serious trouble finding venues. And his group doesn’t always rent the whole venue – interactions with others can be amusing.

I’ve been associated with other groups that rent out entire hotels. That is typically done 3 years in advance, but sometimes you can find availability on shorter notice.

I’ve gone to an event that typically rents a whole hotel, and includes an hour or two of naked dancing. Hotel staff are fine with that. The only time they’ve had any trouble was in Vegas, which has explicit licencing and tax rules covering naked dancing that made it prohibitively expensive. Every other venue has been happy to host it.

In general, groups that pay their bills, buy drinks, and tip the staff are welcome at most hotels.

Here, getting the whole hotel booked for whatever wouldn’t be anymore difficult than calling for the second Wednesday night of next month. It’s just such a non-issue if nothing is going on.

It amazes me that there are people in 2016 who think that people having sex in a hotel is unusual or that it requires special cleaning that hotel staff aren’t used to. Having someone “get a hotel room” for an torrid affair has been a trope in movies (and later TV) since at least the 40s, it’s not some big secret that people get up to [hushed whisper] intercourse [/whisper] in them.

In the one regular fetish event that I’m familiar with, the hotel they have been using for the last four years was hesitant at first but now absolutely loves them. Hotels are quite happy to host an event that will sell out every room in the hotel, they even give better rates if you have a history of filling all or most of the rooms. Hotel staff love the event too, because incidents of event goers harassing the staff or requiring calls to the police way happens much less often than in wedding parties or business conferences. And cleanup is way less trouble than things like wedding parties. Drunk wedding guests tend to do things like barf in the closet, while kinksters tend to put down a tarp for anything that might leave a mess.

Or just watch even old TV? The ultra-conservative TV of the 1960s has plenty of references to people getting a hotel room for implied sex. It really shouldn’t be shocking to anyone that sex happens in hotel rooms, or that they clean it up without expensive and cumbersome hazmat suits.

Realistically, you should worry much more about ‘hazmat suits’ for the aftereffects of a party that’s primarily drinking focused, because cleaning up the aftermath of uncontrolled puking, peeing, or pooping is a lot more unpleasant than dropping sheets in a hamper or using a paper towel in your gloved hand to wipe up a spot of fluid that’s mostly water.

Not on the same scale, no, and people having sex in hotels usually do it in their own rooms, not at the bar or other areas that are usually public if not specifically booked.

Though I don’t doubt the latter at all. Dealing with the public would turn anyone into a misanthrope.

You’d be surprised.

I probably would, I’m kind of old-fashioned about these matters, that sex should be a private and personal matter for one thing, but then I also consider making love and having sex to be two entirely different things. :slight_smile:

Really? And this being only your first big “swinger’s party” when you had no idea such a world existed right along side the regular world. Wow.

There is some overlap if you’re doing it right.

One night, I was working at a wedding reception, and a couple (NOT the bride and/or groom) were going at it in an alcove in the adjoining coffee shop. How do I know this? They hadn’t checked to see if said alcove opened into a public hallway, which it did.

:smack:

Many years ago, I worked with a woman who had previously been a Holiday Inn desk clerk, and she said that the worst group, mess- and noise-wise, were

big groups of junior high kids, whether they be church groups, Scouts, school bands on a trip, etc.

Having been in such a group a few times, ITA.

I was turned away from a hotel in North Platte, Nebraska one night with a simple, “Sorry, there’s a private party going on. The hotel is booked and the nightclub is guests only.” It wasn’t hard. Now I’m wondering what kind of parties go on in North Platte!

Thanks for the story Ambivalid. I’ve often wondered what goes on at swingers clubs but never so curious that I actually visited. The whole thing sounds too difficult for me to navigate, as your unhappy ending shows, but you’ve convinced me to consider mentioning the idea of ‘just visiting’ to my wife, maybe, under the right circumstances.

Are conference rooms not considered public areas?

I have a few questions about all this before I decide to try it out with my partner, or not:

  • was breakfast included in the $50, and was it buffet, full English or continental?

  • was there ample, secure parking with valet service?

  • did they provide hypo-allergenic pillows?

  • did the rooms have a trouser-press?

  • was there free wi-fi?

  • did they take Visa and Amex?

  • was there a cancellation fee?

This was not my first swingers experience. Not at all. This was the first big party I’ve been to. Swinging as a lifestyle and swingers parties are not the same thing.

-We left without looking for breakfast, but I am sure it was served.

-There was a large security presence there.

-No idea about the pillows, sorry.

-No idea about the trouser press, sorry.

-I assume there was free wifi but I didn’t use it.

-They did take Visa, I’m not sure about Amex.

-There were normal hotel cancellation fees if cancelled after a certain time.

I wonder if the tarp industry has conventions. They could probably get the hotels super cheap.

Do you feel the “organizers” are doing this more for the concept of helping people reach out to others and fullfill their desires or do they just see you all as a paycheck?