So my father's worried I might be gay, and I'm not sure I'll bother to disabuse him of the notion.

Here’s the sitch:

Though I’m a technical agnostic and practical atheist, I sometimes attend services at First Congregational Church in midtown Memphis. Mostly it’s for social reasons; I have a lot of friends there from my believer days, and I enjoy the music and the fellowship. Moreover, the church does a lot of good works I’m happy to support. So I’m there one or two Sundays a month, and though I don’t take the woo-woo elements of the theology seriously, I can sit and smile and be agnostic.

First Congo is an open and affirming church. That means that they’re welcoming to gays, lesbians, transexuals, and so forth. This past Sunday they hosted a gay pride rally, as mentioned here.

Last night I went over to my father’s to make him dinner. Dad’s in his late 70s and a lay minister in the odious Church of God in Christ, about whom the best thing I can say is that they would not knowingly hire a serial puppy rapist as a choir director, though a pastor who beat his kids with a sock full of quarters would probably get a thumbs-up. As I cooked, he asked me if I was still attending First Congo and if I’d gone to church the previous day. He’d seen the article I linked to in the paper, and this had left him very worried. He wanted to have a discussion.

At this I groaned. My father’s never had a discussion in his life, you see, because he doesn’t really get the concept of conversation. Talks with him tend to to like this:

*DAD: Did you watch the Titans game yesterday?
SKALD: No, I was–
DAD: You should have, it was good. Football’s really interesting. You need to watch the next game.
SKALD: I don’t like football, Dad. Not really interested–
DAD: Everybody should be intersted in sports. You don’t know what you’re missing. Anyway, your sister brought me over some sweet potato pie, do you want a piece?
SKALD: No, Dad, I can’t eat sweet potato pie. I have diabetes and–
DAD: But you’re cured now. I prayed over it and I know that you’re cured. Didn’t you say that you weren’t taking the shots?
SKALD: I’ve never taken insulin shots regularly, Dad. I said I had managed to get my average blood sugar down by exercise and diet and that I only take a pill every other day, but that doesn’t mean–
DAD: You’d be cured if you’d let the Lord cure you. Let’s pray. *

And so it goes. You can see why I tend to avoid talking about anything of substance, particularly religion. This always annoys him, but I’ve learned that if we actually start talking about the Bible we both end up furious and screaming, whereas if I simply let him talk only he will be vexed.

Anyway: Dad insisted that we have a conversation about Jesus. A wiser or more callous man would simply have left, but I’d just put food in the oven and I didn’t want to abandon it to his ministrations, as it would have been simpler to build a bonfire in the backyard and toss it in. So instead I fell back on my old trick of letting him blather while I do algebra in my head. As the conversation developed, Dad talked about the first chapter of Romans, then the myths about the sadistic pit of fire called hell, and then the line of the patriarchs–going backwards, for some reasons, so that he began with Jacob and ended with the story of Abraham, sequeuing there to the Bible’s biggest asshole, Lot.

That’s when I realized the thurst of Dad’s concern. He was worried that I might be a ho-mo-sexual and didn’t want to actually the word, lest he get teh gay on his tongue.

This was irksome. So I stopped making up quadratic equations to solve and said, “Dad, what is bothering you? Are you worried that I’m gay or something?”

Don’t say that word!” Dad exclaimed. “And yes, I’m worried! You go to that church! Either you’re gay or they’re trying to turn you gay, and either way they’re going to lead you to hell! I don’t want my son going to hell.”

“Don’t worry,” I said. “I’m not going to hell.”

“How do you know that?”

The same way I know I’m not going to be placed in the sky as the constellation Sardonicus when I die, I thought. Aloud I said, “I’m not worried about it.”

“You need to worry about it! Now you tell me right now–are you one of those? Because I can get you help if you are! Your brother’s a counselor* and helps fixs those people all the time, and if that doesn’t help you can come to church with me and we’ll get those demons out of you! But you have to tell me the truth!”

At this point I rolled my eyes so far back in my head that it was briefly painful. After I recovered from that brief moment of masochism, I thought about assuring Dad that I’m not gay, not because I fear Yahweh and obey his commandments but because girls are shockingly pretty and I regularly have to remind myself not to stare at the cute admin in customer service.

I opened my mouth to reassure him (in somewhat more politic language than the above) but then I stopped. It would be very easy to reassure him, but frankly I was too annoyed to do so. Also, I’ve always been bothered by people who disavow homosexuality in such circumstances.

But mostly I was just pissed.

So I said nothing. Let him believe whatever fairy tales he wants.

*My oldest brother works as a reparative therapist with his church. This is not the only reason I despise him, but it’s in the top 10.

Have you though of disinheriting your father? Tell him you’ve cut him out of your will because of the idiotic stuff he thinks about gays.

(and you could tell your gay counsellor brother that he never was in your will.)

Or you could have made peace with him by offering him one of your theater tickets.

I really don’t understand how anyone can subject themselves willingly to spend time with someone like that but if i was somehow forced to do it i would make it my life mission to annoy them. Play it up i say, next time you go see him act like the most stereotypical gay guy you can, the guy people like that are afraid off. Then of course post the results.

I don’t talk to that particular brother except in emergencies. If he’s ever found murdered, my response to the police when the interrogation begins will be something like, “No, I didn’t do it, but I can easily understand why you’d be suspicious of me.”

They’ll be suspicious, among other reasons, because my sisters will probably assume I did it and then tell inconsistent lies to the police trying to protect me.

I’m too pretty to risk that. If I start acting stereotypically gay, I may accidentally convert bi-curious men by the hundreds. :smiley:

As to how I can willingly subject myself to my father—you did get the part where he’s my father, right? Just because he’s an asshole doesn’t mean I don’t love him.

Fool of a Took! That would involve giving up one of my theatre tickets. Unless the play is The Lion King, that’s not gonna happen.

That’s Love right there. :smiley:

I just want to take this time to thank my mom for not being a religious nutcase. I’d hate my life if I was in Skald’s position. He seems to be handling better than I would though so good on you Mr. Rhymer.

Yep, I know where you’re coming from there. Your and my brother must be twins separated at birth. Sanctimonius and holier-than-thou on the outside, but…actually, no but. That’s about it, really. He has no inside. I avoid him like the proverbial plague of locusts.

As far as da ghey is concerned, I’d probably do what you did and let old Dad stew.

@Skald the Rhymer:

You are a good son. I can see, however, why you decided atheism was a good option. Although I am a self-professed (non-denominational) Christian, I will not attempt to “save” you from hell. You can thank me later. :wink:

You can solve quadratic equations in your head?

Only ones I make up myself, and even those very slowly. I used to be much better, but I lost that along with my former lightning calculator abilities around 35 or so.

But the fact that it’s hard is the point, as doing it in my head involves frowning and furrowing my brow as if I were listening to the blather being thrown at me…

Russell Peters has a good skit on his dad thinking he’s gay, or at least hangs out with them (gays):

Dad and Russell are sitting watching TV and a gay pride parade comes on. A couple of Indian men come on and say they are gay!*
Dad: That is disgusting. Look at them. Indian men saying they are gay. (turns to Russell) Do you know them?
Russell: Dad…why would I know them? They are just two people on TV.
Dad: Because they are of the gay…and you are in the entertainment business.
*Obviously it’s much funnier when he tells it.

Another anecdote. My friend whose mother was possibly crazier than mine (may she rest in peace) called my friend up one night, sobbing. When my friend enquired why, the mom said,
Do you do heroin?
Daughter: No, mom, why?
Mom: Because I just saw this program on TV where they said everybody is doing drugs and heroin is the drug of the twenties (my friend’s age) and …sob

One more story.

I was in the doctor’s office a year or so ago. It was packed, and I couldn’t help but overhear this conversation. The mother was maybe 60, the daughter, in her thirties.
Mom: But you see it on TV. Those Internet people are stalkers. Terrible things have happened.
Daughter: I know mom, but it’s rare. I’ve known him for three years now and besides I’ve only met him on the Internet. I’ve seen him dozens of times. Remember when he came to see you? He’s really a nice guy.
Mom: But you see it on TV…
I list these three anecdotes to say that a) People will believe whatever they want, B) Once it’s stuck in their heads it’s hard to get it out, and C) they can believe some really stupid shit.

Either way, you already know to just let it wash off you.

It would be fun if you’re going to continue with this by giving him mixed signals. Put a rainbow sticker on your car, change your drapes to lavendar, use some fruity cologne. Its not an admission, but it’ll definitely raise some eyebrows.

Probably what I’d do. I’d probably do this more often* if I weren’t single. Plus, if he’s busy freaking out about you, you might be preventing someone else from getting attacked (figuratively).

*-I live in the Castro, which can require a disclaimer in certain discussions.

It must be - uh - interesting being in the minority there. I assume that you get hit on from time to time by guys that you are never likely to interested in.

Ah, the Smell a Fart method of acting as explained by Joey Tribbiani. Good show, my friend.

The only problem I see in this (rather fun) premise of allowing your father to think you are Gay is that, if you should ever get married or serious with a woman, he will be 100% certain you were “cured” by his power of prayer.

Perhaps, if the subject were brought up again, you could tell him that many of your good friends are Gay or Lesbian, you like to hang out with them, you think they are great people but no - you are not in fact Gay.

OK, wait, I thought you are gay? Sorry, somewhere I guess I got my wires crossed.
::crosses another one off the master list::
Roddy

That says everything that needs saying.

Heh, my family thought I was gay for a long time. I’m female in case the name fooled you. I have dated a few guys in my lifetime but not all of them ever met my family. In fact I think only one guy ever met most of my family. We’ve been together off an on for over 10 years, but during the time we broke up one of my nieces finally broached the subject with my mother. My mother told her I was not gay but then had to think about things and double-check with me to be sure. I told her she could reassure everyone that I liked the cock, I just wasn’t in a big hurry to let one mess up my life by marrying it and having many babies like everyone else in my family does.

But at least my family would have been tolerant of it, if I was gay, they wouldn’t know how to act around me but they’d be cool with it in a “we’re hip” kind of way while secretly thinking I was going to hell.

Anyway, I think you should start singing show tunes whenever you’re around your father.