So Star Trek "Enterprise Sucks." Could you do better?

The Board seems to have lots of Trekkies/Trekkers, many of them very displeased with various incarnations of Star Trek, be it TOS, TNG, DSN, STV, the half dozen or so motion pictures and, most recently, “Enterprise.”

“Enterprise” especially seems to engender hatred by Board members, which makes me put across this challenge:

Given what you know, love, and respect about the Star Trek series/canon/yadda yadda, do you think that, if Hollywood contacted you, that you could either pen a better series or develop more interesting, fleshed-out characters that wouldn’t make other Trekkers gag?

What talent could you bring to the table? What could you teach the Bermans of the cosmos about writing a crackling good series?

Needs more panda.

Actually, I like Enterprise.

My idea when Voyager was finishing up was this. It’s outdated now, but I liked it at the time, and I think it would’ve been great.

One word: Continuity.

That, plus the immediate destruction of all existing copies of that godawful “Enterprise” theme song. I love Trek, but I have not been able to make myself watch a single episode of Enterprise since I heard that damn song. It’s like a jewelry box smeared in feces–there might be a diamond inside the box, but I can’t even contemplate the notion of opening it up.

Minty, it can be worse. I was in a store where they were not only playing the theme from Enterprise, it was ROD-FUCKING-STEWART singing the theme from Enterprise.

By the way, if that ship blasted a trough a click deep through Florida, why didn’t it fill with water?

I kind of like Enterprise when the scripts give them some real meaty problems to solve like how to restrain a sweaty, large breasted, pointy eared Vulcan in heat. The problem is that, unlike previous Enterprise shows, about once every third show the writing gets lazy and falls back the tired premise of some member of the crew (usually the Captain) doing something completely and utterly retarded that digs hole they then have to climb out of.

Previous Enterprise show scripts may have been unoriginal and formulaic, but they didn’t require that the officer staff have room temperature IQ’s and the emotional self control of 13 year olds.

I would replace the writers. And I would fire whoever decided that the only thing the series needed was more women in spandex uniforms – it’s stupid, pandering, and drives more people away than it attracts.

Also, I would figure out a way of hiring someone that would look back over past episodes and veto new scripts that were too much like them.

Well, I think more 1920’s style “Death Rays” would make things much more interesting.

Indeed, I’d get some new writers. Ones who’d take some more “risks” with stories.

And, to keep fans happy, I’d probably find some way of saying, offically, that Enterprise is taking place in an altered timeline. Even if that means writing the series finale so that the “temporal cold war” is resolved by erasing the NX-01 from history, and resetting the timeline back to the TOS-TNG original.

For that matter, there would be a ban on any “time travel” episodes being filmed more than once per season.

I’d make Trip gay. Yeah, the Southern engineer. Like I’m the only one who sees it.

No more “reptilian” aliens, unless they have a full snout. Instead of “generic bumpy head” aliens, I’d either have ones that looked completely human, or that were played by actors with an “unpleasant to look at” physical condition.

I wouldn’t add photon torpedos to the Enterprise’s arsenal, like they’re going to do in the upcoming season…I’d give them nukes. Big, dirty, nukes. Like in “Balance of Terror.”

Add more “cerebral” storylines, but ones that didn’t rely on incomprehensible technobabble. I’d balance these with episodes where they send down companies of Starfleet Marines to “resolve” diplomatic or cultural disputes.

Write episodes that deal with some major social-issue or another…but don’t present any sort of snappy “solution” to said problem.

To hell with “Will they or Won’t They?” sexual tension subplots that stretch the length of the series but never get acted upon or resolved…I’d have Archer and T’Pol have a full, torrid affair.

Come to think of it, I’d probably have T’Pol decide to reject logic about a season and a half before the series ends…and stick with it through the finale. Just to see if I could do that with a main character. I’d have the storyline lead up to that happening for about a season beforehand, of course, so it wouldn’t seem like it was something written up overnight.

OK, maybe it wouldn’t be better…but it’d be a lot more fun.

I like Enterprise so far. However, I am willing to admit that even things I like could probably be made better, so here goes.

I don’t see continuity as a huge problem. I do really enjoy keeping track of minor details and looking for contradictions, but for fun, not because I think they ruin the show. And medium-sized issues don’t bother me, especially if they acknowledge that’s what they’re doing (eg. Klingon makeup); at least we know it’s not due to oversight.

I agree that some of the plotlines could use improvement. But I don’t think it’s as simple as firing the writers and hoping you can find better ones. There are a lot of restrictions, like expense. Action scenes (including space battles) are expensive. Exotic locations are expensive. Sets you can’t reuse are expensive. New aliens that require a heck of a lot of makeup are expensive. They tend to save these things for the season finale/premiere or movies, which is fine by me. I would have a space battle or firefight no more than two or three times a season, because they can’t do them that well anyway; spend that money on the writing.

Here are some kinds of episodes I think they should have more of:[ul][li]Political storylines (eg. “Cease Fire”). DS9 had some good ones, and I think they have enough going in Enterprise, for instance with the Andorians, to pull this off.[]Mini-mysteries (eg. “Terra Nova”, although this particular episode is just okay). These are fun! And they’d make great two-parters.[]Adventures (eg. “Precious Cargo”). Chase and rescue stories make a pretty solid plot; the challenge is making each adventure new and unique.[/ul]Here are some I think they should have less of:[ul][]Character development (“Fight or Flight”). Development is important, but I think it works better as the “B” plot. Episodes primarily focused on one or two characters don’t work so well, IMHO.[]Anything in which the solution to the conflict is flying really fast or shooting a lot (“Singularity”). Not every episode has to be terribly cerebral, but they can do better than this.[/li][/ul]And here are the ones in between:[ul][]Social or philosophical points (“Cogenitor”). They’re hard to do, because it seems that if people disagree with you, they won’t like it. So they’re good, but they should be used with care.[]Clever original ideas (“Carbon Creek”). Good, but it must be hard to do on demand.Humor episodes (“Unexpected”). These make good fillers, but I’d hate to see them overused.[/ul]I don’t think “risks”, like killing off characters, would necessarily be any good. Although I do like drama, that’s not what Star Trek is primarily about; it’s about exploration and adventure.

Here’s my two cents…

I saw a couple episodes of SNG last night. One was decent, the other stale and trite. After a few dozen episodes, it’s amazing how one-dimensional the characters really are. Heck, even 10-Forward is boring. I’ll also admit that some of my fellow SD posters ruined “Enterprise” for me, by saying it wasn’t worth viewing. Of course, it really may be as bad as some say…

I know TOS looks dated, but some of those episodes are real pearls.

But getting back to my OP, no, I don’t think I could do better. Writing scripts for Star Trek strikes me as a no win situation.

Some Enterprise eps received good reviews in our threads.

Some didn’t.

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For ideas on how to make it better, read the 3127 or so threads we’ve started about different ways to make it better. Lots of jokes, sure, but a ton of very good ideas, too.

Too late. There was a USS Archer in Nemesis.

I second the time travel ban, BTW.

Enterprise is, in fact, my favorite version to date. TOS was mainly an adventure series; TNG and Voyager had too much allegory for my taste, and I never warmed up to DS9. Enterprise (as of the first two seasons) is primarily about making hard decisions without much in the way of experience as a guide. Plus, the steambath scenes rock!

I’d have remade The Forbidden PLanet as the Enterprise pilot.

http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0049223/

Decon.

Panda.

:smiley:

And here they are:
[ul][]Ideas for enterprise, April 2003. This one only got eight replies. It’s basically “More ships, and start building the Federation.” They did say that the NX-02 would be ready in 12 months, in the season 2 finale, so maybe we’ll see this by season 4 or 5. That would be cool, but I also like that the Enterprise is all they’ve got for now.[]Save Enterprise with your ideas for shows, December 2002. A couple of people said war and battles. I said earlier (in this thread) that I wish they would save the money they’d need for that and spend it on writing, but maybe it could work. I dunno. There was actually one serious episode proposal more than a couple of lines, written by kingpengvin. Of course, it involves starting a war, and having another human ship. :)[]The Enterprise Speculation And/Or Wish List Thread, May 2002. This one actually didn’t have any fleshed-out ideas. Some of the one-liners in here are creative, but I think it would take a lot of work to complete them.[]Write your own Enterprise episode, November 2002. Okay, so this thread isn’t serious at all. But it’s people talking about writing for Enterprise.[/ul]

Oh, then it’s not prurient in the least. Damn!