That’s all well and good, but Sanford was visiting a Brazilian. 
Argentinian.
And in further news, the governor refuses to resign.
Interestingly, in none of what is being addressed does the governor discuss his dereliction of duty as governor. If he would at least seem contrite about THAT, I’d have some greater willingness to see him stay governor.
I do have to think that someone who’s idea of reconciling with his family is heading off to Argentina for a last sleepover with the mistriss is missing a screw or ten from his rack. But “love” has made others do amazingly stupid things. :eek:
Now the real question: do the Republicans in Columbia hate the situation enough to impeach him? :dubious:
I see what you did there. 
Whew. After Captain Carrot’s post, I was afraid it would go unnoticed and just chalked up to me being an ignorant young’in.
On Yahoo, there is a picture (poor quality though) of the “other woman”, who has confirmed she was having a relationship with the govenor…
The picture is from a few years back, when she apparently worked as a news reporter, but she is not the Latin Beauty I was somehow expecting; attractive yes, but not nearly as striking as many Argentinian women (or Chilean or Brazilian etc.) seem to be.
Link, please!
Link. Video clip that it is pulled from, she first appears at ~:40. It has a clip of the planes hitting the WTC on 9/11, so I assume it’s from around then.
Thanks. She’s very good-looking, I’d say.
Yeah, but he probably lost sight of that while daydreaming about her rack.
We have the same one in Argentina, "One pubic hair has more pull than a team of oxen"x
So it turns out it was more times than he said.
And he’s had inappropriate relationships before with other women, though never an affair of the heart and never involving intercourse.
And still, what seems to be outside his grasp is that the issue isn’t infidelity, but lack of contact during the 5 day trip to Argentina. :rolleyes:
DSYoungEsq, what is the general mood of the S.C. people re Sanford?
Do most see it as his private family matter?
Do most think his lying/dereliction of duty is too much to forgive?
What do you see happening? Will he resign? Will he be removed forceably from office?
Dont know why this interests me so much, but the way he has handled (bumbled thru) this whole “affair” makes it hard to stop watching…
ETA- I didnt see your link when I asked all my questions.
I was watching CNN, and one of the Sunday talk-shows had Lindsey Grahm and Mitt Romney talking about Sanford. The host asked them if they thought Sanford should resign, and both men said that he might be able to continue as Governor if his wife took him back.
Now I can see arguments for and against him continuing in his current position, but the idea that the issue the public should care about in determining one way or another is Sanford’s continued relationship with his wife is really bizarre.
Yeah, I thought that was a very interesting perspective, too. In other words, if Jenny continues to toss him out, he’s a failure domestically, so he must resign. But if his wife lets him re-integrate domestically, then he’s entitled to run the state for 18 more months.
This doesn’t surprise me much coming from Conservative Republicans, who I suspect are more shaken by his infidelity than by his dereliction of duty. But it’s a pretty silly thought process in my mind.
@MPB in Salt Lake: the mood here is one of anger at him, but popular mood being what it is, trying to divide the mood about the infidelity from the mood about the dereliction of duty is very hard. This is a very conservative state; they don’t hold to such things as running around on your wife. But they are also very much not sure about the Lt. Gov., so they may be willing to let the governor finish his term.
You know, I was actually feeling some sympathy for the guy. I read his e-mails, and I really thought he had found himself torn by finding the love of his life while married to another. Even then, the honorable thing to do would have been to tell his wife, leave his wife, and then pursue a relationship with his newly-found love. But I was sympathetic to the vision I had constructed of a basically honorable man struggling with a love he never sought out and a marriage in which he obviously didn’t really want to be in.
But learning that he has “crossed the line” with several other women (although not the “ultimate line” :rolleyes: ) has destroyed that sympathy.
In any event, he should resign, because his judgment is impaired by his personal life to the extent that he was willing to deceive his staff, drop out of contact with the state of which he was governor, all to spend time with his lover. Sorry - there’s no way that’s appropriate.
He needs to go.
I was also :rolleyes: at the “ultimate line” distinction he was so anxious to make…
I wonder how he would feel if his wife let someone get up close and personal with her glistening, hot and steamy “ultimate line” as long as no actual “crossing” took place???
If you want to play the field, have the balls to cut loose your attachments before setting out.
has he even apologized for being missing as the gov. for 5 days? as far as i can tell he has only said sorry for the affair.
Well, in his first conference, he did a lot of apologizing, although most of it came before he explained what he was apologizing about. He did apologize to certain members of the staff when he did that. Then, when he had his first staff meeting the next day, he specifically apologized to the staff for having put them in a bad spot, which obviously has to do with having left them in the lurch with no explanation, forcing them to scramble to come up with something to cover his sorry ass (though I’m not sure I’m happy that they found it necessary to lie in the process).
Since then, he’s done a lot of babbling, crying, and apologizing. I’ve lost track of what he’s apologized for, and when. :rolleyes:
This morning, the newspapers are reporting that the tide is turning. The latest revelations are beginning to have an effect. Some of his allies are saying that the news he’s had other dalliances or episodes is changing their mind about him (here in this state, with its very conservative bent, that’s not a shock). Other allies are saying that they are tired of hearing him basically melt down in these interviews; they don’t think he needs to use the media as some sort of public confessional. I tend to agree with that; how the hell does his wife feel reading in the paper that he really loves the Argentinian, that she’s his soul mate, but he’s going to try and fall back in love with his wife??? I mean, REALLY. :mad:
The real sticky wicket isn’t Sanford. It’s the fact that there is general reluctance towards giving Lt. Gov. Bauer incumbency status for 18 months while he runs for the real thing next year. Everyone knows that gives him a leg up, and he’s potentially more of a bozo than the curren edition of the governor is. So people like the Attorney General (who is also running) and others in the hunt don’t really want to see the Governor resign.
The whole thing is a disaster. 
ISTR that Lt. Gov. Bauer had offered to serve as governor upon Sanford’s resignation but forego a run for the post himself, essentially serving as a caretaker governor, so as take the focus off politics. Did he withdraw that offer? Is it still on the table, or has it changed the dynamic of the situation at all?