So This disaster Was Somehow *MY* Fault. Wow. Just . . . Wow!

[Euphrosyne]

Copied and Pasted From the Closed Thread I Started:

Moderator Note
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darren Garrison View Post
Ah, but the tone of my posts is a direct result of seeing that condescension. I don’t have a beam in my eye–I’m poking her with a stick.
Which I explicitly asked you - and others, not to do. This thread is more trouble than it’s worth. Closing.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Euphrosyne
I really appreciate what you’ve tried to do, and only wish the moderators might have been a little more proactive. But it is what it is.
Most people know the rules of this message board and usually follow them. Moderators are volunteers and actually have lives outside of message boards, so if you don’t receive a response immediately, it’s probably because we’re doing something in meatspace. I already moderated this thread once and I did so without anyone reporting it, so I think I’ve been plenty proactive, thanks.

Since you’ve asked, the best way to deal with people being antagonistic toward you is to ignore them and keep the thread on topic. When most people who respond to your posts do so in a certain negative way, it’s indicative that you aren’t coming off well. They will be moderated accordingly, but you will probably continue to have problems until you adjust your posting style. Witnessing, in particular, is not well received here, in fact, threads that are explicitly about witnessing are typically moved to the Pit. I don’t think this thread warrants such a move, but some of your posts are definitely skirting the line, and I am 99% confident that’s why you’re getting negative feedback. Something to consider for future postings, if you do decide to stay.

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“Not well-received” “Not well received”?

You mean, people who “witness” on this site will undergo mercilessly bullying for an entire day, and the bullies will be allowed to get away with doing so. That’s what “not well-received” looks like on this site. Disgraceful.

Any halfway reasonably well-run site would take steps to ban perpetrators of repeated bullying, either temporarily or permanently, EVEN IF THE ORIGINAL POSTER WERE WITNESSING ABOUT THE GOD ISIS!

And moderators of halfway reasonably well-run sites don’t blame the victim of repeated belligerence that takes place on their site, NO MATTER WHAT THE IMAGINED PROVOCATION, if the original poster is abiding by the POSTED RULES OF THE SITE.

And perpetrators of repeated bullying would be banned on any half-way reasonably well-run site.

Straight Dope. Dope is right.

[bobot]

Dope is Dope.

[cochrane]

Euphrosyne, as a piece of advice, you should read the forum descriptions on the main page. If you want to witness, you should start your thread in Great Debates.

“For long-running discussions of the great questions of our time. This is also the place for religious debates and (if you feel you must) witnessing.”

IMHO really isn’t a great place to start such a thread. Of course, not everyone is religious here, and of those who are, not all of them are Christian. You’ll still have a lot of people questioning your beliefs, but that forum has a lower tolerance for derision.

[Spice_Weasel]

@cochrane

Euphrosyne, as a piece of advice, you should read the forum descriptions on the main page. If you want to witness, you should start your thread in Great Debates.

“For long-running discussions of the great questions of our time. This is also the place for religious debates and (if you feel you must) witnessing.”

IMHO really isn’t a great place to start such a thread. Of course, not everyone is religious here, and of those who are, not all of them are Christian. You’ll still have a lot of people questioning your beliefs, but that forum has a lower tolerance for derision.

I apologize, I said that threads about witnessing are usually moved to the Pit and this was ignorance on my part. Witnessing is usually moved to Great Debates.

I have reported this thread for a forum change to ATMB. I will be happy to respond to the content of the complaint once the thread is in the appropriate forum.

[raventhief]

The BBQ Pit tend toward outright abuse.

To continue my thought from the now closed thread, are you aware of lynchings occuring pre-1960s?

[BigT]

Yes, that is what “not well received” looks like. I don’t see any particular violations of the actual rules. I don’t see anyone directly attacking you. I do see people who were fed up with you and your style of posting. Instead of talking to people like normal people, you were doing that holier-than-thou aggressive “thank you” response to everyone. Pretty much every one of your “nice” posts was a veiled attack. So it’s not remotely surprising that people responded in kind.

I know that some people tell themselves that this sort of thing is “being nice,” but it’s just really passive aggressive and rubs people the wrong way. If you’re going to witness, you have to realize that people HATE being witnessed to, and thus be as gentle as possible. (And I say this as a fellow Christian.)

So, yeah, I’d say the response was basically your own fault. You chose a condescending, passive-aggressive way of discussing the topic, and got responses that fit that sort of tone. Until you recognize your own hostility, you can’t really expect others to rein in theirs. You know, the mote/beam thing.

As for moderation, I think I might be able to slightly discuss that here (in regards to how other forums would moderate), but I’ll play it safe and simply point out that discussion of moderation goes in ATMB, and must be civil. Unlike in this forum, where you very well could be actually bullied. This is the “no holds barred” forum, as you have already taken advantage of.

I do not think you really want to be posting in the BBQ Pit.

[TreacherousCretin]

@Euphrosyne

Copied and Pasted From the Closed Thread I Started:

Moderator Note
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darren Garrison View Post
Ah, but the tone of my posts is a direct result of seeing that condescension. I don’t have a beam in my eye–I’m poking her with a stick.
Which I explicitly asked you - and others, not to do. This thread is more trouble than it’s worth. Closing.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Euphrosyne
I really appreciate what you’ve tried to do, and only wish the moderators might have been a little more proactive. But it is what it is.
Most people know the rules of this message board and usually follow them. Moderators are volunteers and actually have lives outside of message boards, so if you don’t receive a response immediately, it’s probably because we’re doing something in meatspace. I already moderated this thread once and I did so without anyone reporting it, so I think I’ve been plenty proactive, thanks.

Since you’ve asked, the best way to deal with people being antagonistic toward you is to ignore them and keep the thread on topic. When most people who respond to your posts do so in a certain negative way, it’s indicative that you aren’t coming off well. They will be moderated accordingly, but you will probably continue to have problems until you adjust your posting style. Witnessing, in particular, is not well received here, in fact, threads that are explicitly about witnessing are typically moved to the Pit. I don’t think this thread warrants such a move, but some of your posts are definitely skirting the line, and I am 99% confident that’s why you’re getting negative feedback. Something to consider for future postings, if you do decide to stay.

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“Not well-received” “Not well received”?

You mean, people who “witness” on this site will undergo mercilessly bullying for an entire day, and the bullies will be allowed to get away with doing so. That’s what “not well-received” looks like on this site. Disgraceful.

Any halfway reasonably well-run site would take steps to ban perpetrators of repeated bullying, either temporarily or permanently, EVEN IF THE ORIGINAL POSTER WERE WITNESSING ABOUT THE GOD ISIS!

And moderators of halfway reasonably well-run sites don’t blame the victim of repeated belligerence that takes place on their site, NO MATTER WHAT THE IMAGINED PROVOCATION, if the original poster is abiding by the POSTED RULES OF THE SITE.

And perpetrators of repeated bullying would be banned on any half-way reasonably well-run site.

Straight Dope. Dope is right.

No kiss?

[TreacherousCretin]

@BigT

Yes, that is what “not well received” looks like. I don’t see any particular violations of the actual rules. I don’t see anyone directly attacking you. I do see people who were fed up with you and your style of posting. Instead of talking to people like normal people, you were doing that holier-than-thou aggressive “thank you” response to everyone. Pretty much every one of your “nice” posts was a veiled attack. So it’s not remotely surprising that people responded in kind.

I know that some people tell themselves that this sort of thing is “being nice,” but it’s just really passive aggressive and rubs people the wrong way. If you’re going to witness, you have to realize that people HATE being witnessed to, and thus be as gentle as possible. (And I say this as a fellow Christian.)

So, yeah, I’d say the response was basically your own fault. You chose a condescending, passive-aggressive way of discussing the topic, and got responses that fit that sort of tone. Until you recognize your own hostility, you can’t really expect others to rein in theirs. You know, the mote/beam thing.

As for moderation, I think I might be able to slightly discuss that here (in regards to how other forums would moderate), but I’ll play it safe and simply point out that discussion of moderation goes in ATMB, and must be civil. Unlike in this forum, where you very well could be actually bullied. This is the “no holds barred” forum, as you have already taken advantage of.

I do not think you really want to be posting in the BBQ Pit.

To give credit where due, at least she finally dropped the “enlightened being of love” schtick.

[Morgenstern]

Just a suggestion. Sit back and see which way the river flows before trying to swim in it. This will all fizzle to a nothing if you do.

[Euphrosyne]

@BigT

Yes, that is what “not well received” looks like. I don’t see any particular violations of the actual rules. I don’t see anyone directly attacking you. I do see people who were fed up with you and your style of posting. Instead of talking to people like normal people, you were doing that holier-than-thou aggressive “thank you” response to everyone. Pretty much every one of your “nice” posts was a veiled attack. So it’s not remotely surprising that people responded in kind.

I know that some people tell themselves that this sort of thing is “being nice,” but it’s just really passive aggressive and rubs people the wrong way. If you’re going to witness, you have to realize that people HATE being witnessed to, and thus be as gentle as possible. (And I say this as a fellow Christian.)

So, yeah, I’d say the response was basically your own fault. You chose a condescending, passive-aggressive way of discussing the topic, and got responses that fit that sort of tone. Until you recognize your own hostility, you can’t really expect others to rein in theirs. You know, the mote/beam thing.

As for moderation, I think I might be able to slightly discuss that here (in regards to how other forums would moderate), but I’ll play it safe and simply point out that discussion of moderation goes in ATMB, and must be civil. Unlike in this forum, where you very well could be actually bullied. This is the “no holds barred” forum, as you have already taken advantage of.

I do not think you really want to be posting in the BBQ Pit.

So you’re telling me these poor innocent snowflakes were triggered by the hideous experience of being (allegedly) condescending to or witnessed to by a woman. And because of the horror of undergoing these traumatic experiences, they found themselves somehow drifting in a place of acting like belligerent bullies . . . all because the poor innocent darlings COULDN’T HELP THEMSELVES.

Yeah, well, if you buy that, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

A real man, who is actually a man, if he reads something he doesn’t like, won’t
conduct himself like a bully. He clicks off of the screen, and goes somewhere else.

But poor, sensitive, girly-men who can’t help themselves start to act like bullies, anymore than a three-year-old can’t help crying when someone takes away his toy.

The wailing of a roomful of infants has gotten on my nerves, and I can’t take it anymore. Poor, dears, I hope soon someone comes along to give them their widdle wollipops back so they can stop bullying and begin to play again.

[Colibri]

@Spice_Weasel

I have reported this thread for a forum change to ATMB. I will be happy to respond to the content of the complaint once the thread is in the appropriate forum.

Moved.

As a reminder, now that the thread is in ATMB this discussion should remain civil and avoid personal attacks on other posters.

[Colibri]

@Euphrosyne

So you’re telling me these poor innocent snowflakes were triggered by the hideous experience of being (allegedly) condescending to or witnessed to by a woman. And because of the horror of undergoing these traumatic experiences, they found themselves somehow drifting in a place of acting like belligerent bullies . . . all because the poor innocent darlings COULDN’T HELP THEMSELVES.

Yeah, well, if you buy that, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

A real man, who is actually a man, if he reads something he doesn’t like, won’t
conduct himself like a bully. He clicks off of the screen, and goes somewhere else.

But poor, sensitive, girly-men who can’t help themselves start to act like bullies, anymore than a three-year-old can’t help crying when someone takes away his toy.

The wailing of a roomful of infants has gotten on my nerves, and I can’t take it anymore. Poor, dears, I hope soon someone comes along to give them their widdle wollipops back so they can stop bullying and begin to play again.

This thread was moved to ATMB because it involved discussion of moderation, which should be confined to that forum rather than the Pit. Now that it’s here, you need to stop attacking other posters.

[Colibri]

Actually, given that last post this thread is probably too far off the rails to resolve, so I’m going to close it.

Euphrosyne, if you wish to complain about moderation, you may open a new thread in ATMB, but keep your complaint civil.

If you want to attack other posters and call them names, you may start a new thread in the Pit. Do not do so in ATMB.