so, this is what some think points to Black greatness?

[magellan01]

@DianaG

I see no reason to be so specific. I can’t imagine why anyone would give a shit what he thinks about anything.

There are very few people whom I’m so entirely certain have absolutely nothing to say that I could possibly find interesting, illuminating or even amusing that I have them on ignore, but he’s been one of them for about ever. I can’t remember seeing anything from him that wasn’t a steaming pile of worthlessness.

Yet you decided to click on the thread I started. Good work.

[pseudotriton_ruber_ruber]

@DianaG

I see no reason to be so specific. I can’t imagine why anyone would give a shit what he thinks about anything.

There are very few people whom I’m so entirely certain have absolutely nothing to say that I could possibly find interesting, illuminating or even amusing that I have them on ignore, but he’s been one of them for about ever. I can’t remember seeing anything from him that wasn’t a steaming pile of worthlessness.

I’ll go a step further: Magellan01’s disparagement of Ms. Davis compels me to wonder if my own estimation of her needs to be adjusted upwards. After all, he’s wrong, and foolish-wrong, and stupid-wrong, about everything else, so what are the odds that’s correct on this? Pretty long, I’d say.

[mister_nyx]

So this monster of a woman . . . legally bought some guns, and then got charged as an accessory to a crime because of an ill-conceived law.

This apparently makes her “scum”. Despite the fact that the person calling her that is a conservative and (I feel same assuming) an advocate for gun rights.

This illustrates the fact that “conservatism” in the United States nowadays is something with no actual intellectual basis – any principles conservatives claim to espouse, like gun rights, are really just slogans that they shout when it’s useful, not actual ideas they believe in. Being a “conservative” has as much ideological basis as being a supporter of a sports team. Angela Davis is on the other team so she’s “scum”, and as this magellan01 has illustrated, any reason for that other than that she’s on the other team is just a flimsy rationalization made up on the spot.

[magellan01]

@Simplicio

I’m kinda sceptical the best way to learn about Davis’s politics is that not exactly even-handed article. But in anycase, I’m not sure it should matter. The wall is for great black political leaders. Its sort of the nature of such a thing that the woman depicted are going to have strong political views, and that a good sized segment of the US population is going to disagree with those views. For example, lots of people think Condolezza Rice lied to start a war that ended up costing the US trillions of dollars, thousands of lives and killed who knows how many Iraqis. But even if you agree with that, I think its undeniable that she was a formidable female black political leader.

Similarly, Davis was a vocal and influential black political leader, and so belongs on the wall. That you (and I) disagree with her views isn’t really the point.

And as I said, I actually like Davis on the wall for a seperate reason. Unlike the others, she was specifically associated with reform of the US judicial system, so being on the wall of a federal court house seems fitting.

I disagree with the politics of many/most of the people on the wall, but I think that their inclusion makes perfect sense and I have zero problem with it. Not so for Davis, for the reasons mentioned.

[magellan01]

@mister_nyx

So this monster of a woman . . . legally bought some guns, and then got charged as an accessory to a crime because of an ill-conceived law.

What ill-conceived law are you referring to?

And for the record, I didn’t write anything about having a problem with her being able to buy guns.

[42fish]

@magellan01

Yes, the Angela Davis as recounted here. The one who played a role in the the kidnapping and killing of a judge from his courtroom.

…isn’t this a slap in the face to the others on the list?

Definitely. I’m sure that Condeleeza Rice, for instance, is fuming, “I played a role in killing several thousand American soldiers and tens of thousands of Iraqis and I have to share space with some piker who helped off a single judge? It’s an outrage!”

[Lobohan]

@42fish

Definitely. I’m sure that Condeleeza Rice, for instance, is fuming, “I played a role in killing several thousand American soldiers and tens of thousands of Iraqis and I have to share space with some piker who helped off a single judge? It’s an outrage!”

Not to mention she broke Khadaffi’s heart.

[magellan01]

@42fish

Definitely. I’m sure that Condeleeza Rice, for instance, is fuming, “I played a role in killing several thousand American soldiers and tens of thousands of Iraqis and I have to share space with some piker who helped off a single judge? It’s an outrage!”

Ah, a true idiot shows up. Then again, maybe you’re smarter than the rest…at least you’re of the mind that she did play a role in the judge’s abduction and murder. Good for you.

[pseudotriton_ruber_ruber]

“Whatever is your reasoning in finding Angela Davis an admirable role model?”

“Well, this dude on the internet, calls himself Magellan01, has a lot of animosity towards her…”

[magellan01]

@Lobohan

Not to mention she broke Khadaffi’s heart.

I gotta say, you’re on a roll today.

Elucidator is probably banging his head against the wall. It takes him 6 or 7 months to happen upon two things that are actually funny.

[Jack_Batty]

Say. Take a look at this.

Jennifer Lopez, Chelsea Handler and Laura Bush honored at Glamour Women of the Year Awards.

What does this tell us about the state of glamour in this country? Do we really want someone who killed a man by running a stop sign to grace the company of J-Lo and HorseTeeth McGee like this?

[magellan01]

@pseudotriton_ruber_ruber

“Whatever is your reasoning in finding Angela Davis an admirable role model?”

“Well, this dude on the internet, calls himself Magellan01, has a lot of animosity towards her…”

Oh, right. I’m the only one.

[andros]

@magellan01

So, even though OJ Simpson was acquitted of the murder of his ex-wife, Nicole, would you have been fine with him being voted One of The Greatest Black Americans the next year?

I just wanted to mention, magellan01, that this is a really silly comparison. Firstly, no one is talking about “Greatest Black American.” You said it’s merely a list of “Black women paving the way to greatness in politics,” whatever that means. It’s not “Black Women Who are the Best People Ever.” Secondly, Simpson, while a horrible human being, would nevertheless have a perfectly valid claim to a list of “Great Black Athletes.”

[pseudotriton_ruber_ruber]

@magellan01

Oh, right. I’m the only one.

No, man, I’m saying I had a little animosity, right up until I learned that you hated her. At that point, I started reconsidering my judgment–if you hate her, how bad could she be?

[orcenio]

@Lobohan

Not to mention she broke Khadaffi’s heart.

Are they naming AK47 ammo Rice now?

[mister_nyx]

@magellan01

And for the record, I didn’t write anything about having a problem with her being able to buy guns.

And yet that’s the only actual complaint that you can come up with about her.

[magellan01]

@pseudotriton_ruber_ruber

No, man, I’m saying I had a little animosity, right up until I learned that you hated her. At that point, I started reconsidering my judgment–if you hate her, how bad could she be?

Nice save.

Credit where credit is due.

[Lobohan]

@orcenio

Are they naming AK47 ammo Rice now?

Rejection can hit harder than any bullet.
http://photoblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/08/25/7470058-in-the-ruins-of-gadhafis-lair-rebels-find-album-filled-with-photos-of-his-darling-condoleezza-rice

[Lobohan]

@magellan01

I gotta say, you’re on a roll today.

Elucidator is probably banging his head against the wall. It takes him 6 or 7 months to happen upon two things that are actually funny.

I must be in a good mood, I don’t even feel like jumping on the pile-on.

[crowmanyclouds]

@42fish

Definitely. I’m sure that Condeleeza Rice, for instance, is fuming, “I played a role in killing several thousand American soldiers and tens of thousands of Iraqis and I have to share space with some piker who helped off a single judge? It’s an outrage!”

@magellan01

Ah, a true idiot shows up. Then again, maybe you’re smarter than the rest…at least you’re of the mind that she did play a role in the judge’s abduction and murder. Good for you.

Reading comprehension just ain’t your strong suit . . . is it ((magellan01) (Parentheticals included for the (sugar-free ;)) idiot.))?

CMC fnord!
Pro-Tip: Them thar words in teh “” thingies in 42fish’s postamajig, they amn’t be 42fish’s brain words.