Oh I don’t know, maybe the umpty-million trollish threads you start that at root are all variations on “explain these stupid/lazy/violent/entitled/whatthefuckeverelse black people to me please”? All while you bat your eyelashes and act like butter wouldn’t melt in your mouth.
This thread popped into my head while walking back from lunch. So, just to be clear (because some posters evidently have jumped to a false conclusion :eek:), I am not of the mind that the “packed” jury Horowitz speaks of was the result of any conspiratorial shenanigans. I take his comment to mean packed in a more passive manner, that the jury was “packed” with people who identified as liberal. And given the trial was in Marin County, and not Oxford, Mississippi, that seems like a reasonable assumption, even if a bit hyperbolic.
That said, it is also very likely, as one poster mentioned, that the jury thought she was guilty but that the evidence didn’t allow them to reach the level of confidence they need to convict her.
The former may be a legitimate question or simply be rising to the low level of JAQing off, the later is why this thread got moved to the pit.
It’s mostly a matter of tone and known poster history going a very long way to understanding how certain posters are responded to.
You might want to try posting this on a message board filled with gun owners who live in fear of UN black helicopters and FEMA death camps and try explaining to them why one person needs only multiple guns and not an arsenal sufficient to equip at minimum an entire platoon.
If you should chose to try this please post a link . . . watching you get your ass handed to you somewhere else would be entertaining!
Let’s also be clear that the accuser, David Horowitz claims that he was unaware of the criminal nature of the leaders of the Black Panther Party and actively helped them until it supposedly dawned on him that they had murdered another helper. We can credit Horowitz at his word that he was a stooge, but we don’t have to do that if we don’t want to. I do give him such credit. But I also credit Angela Davis with the same being played for a fool.
Stephen Bingham, grandson of Hiram Bingham, was charged in a similar case in the same era and local. He fled he was so certain he could not get a fair trial during these times. Stephen Bingham - Wikipedia When he returned 13 years later he was tried and acquitted.
As I remember, many Chicano people in California, at that time, were proud of Louis Franco, the Mexican American juror at the Angela Davis trial, who spoke of feeling moved by the defenses final argument concerning the persecution of blacks in America, and that he could relate it to problems faced by Mexican Americans.
Let’s see, here’s the second part which you quoted:
So what in that is Pit worthy? The off-handed allusion pointing out the existence of one portion of the left that is fetid-brained? No, something being GD worthy doesnt mean that they’re can’t be passion or insults toward a group. You just can’t insult other posters. Would you care to wager than I can find ten instances in GD where the right, or conservatives are backhanded? No, this is yet another case of a GD moderator abusing his powers. Here, tomndebb doesn’t like the point being raised, so he sends it to the Pit where he the swarm hurl invective and nitpick endlessly. He must keep his young flock fed.
Let’s also not forget that the radicalism and militancy of black leftists at the end of the 1960s was inspired in part by real and severe racial oppression, often perpetrated by whites within the criminal justice system.
Such problems are exemplified by the events leading up to the 1967 Detroit riot:
The Black Panthers are now often regarded with horror and revulsion as tantamount to a domestic terrorist organization, but it’s little remembered that they were originally founded in 1966 as “the Black Panther Party for Self-Defense”, to protect black communities against police brutality:
A lot of blacks in the late 1960s, particularly radical blacks, felt with some justice that their communities were under systematic attack from a racist system alarmed by the Civil Rights movement, and that some of the worst predators were the law enforcement officials who were supposed to protect them. It’s hard for us to imagine nowadays just how prevalent and serious overt racist oppression could be.
If even some white conservatives nowadays feel that gun ownership is crucial insurance against potential oppression by “jackbooted thugs” in uniform, imagine how black radicals only a few short years after the Voting Rights Act must have felt.
Seems to me that if tomndebb is really trying to keep Great Debates ideologically pure and uncontaminated by points of view he personally disagrees with, then he’s doing a pretty lousy job.
Great post, Kimstu. For a taste of just how much justice there was that feeling, and for those who want to understand just how “prevalent and serious overt racist oppression could be”, I submit that people should know more about Fred Hampton, for example.
I for one am sick and tired of being threatened by these monsters running our philosophy departments. I’m just outraged by all the thuggish philosophers discussing their Kantian dialectics and holding judges hostage. How many people do you know who were murdered by philosophy professors? Truly, none of us will sleep easy until we deal with the thread of philosophers gone mad.
