So two months notice wasn't enough? (long and lame)

The BBQ Pit
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Having to move sucks, especially when you have been in the same place for many years. You have friends in the neighborhood, you know where the good restaurants are, your kids are in school, lots of reasons. Plus, packing and cleaning are no fun, neither is moving, and having to find someplace new is a lot of work.

I don’t think anyone is disagreeing with that. I think that several people (myself among them) are saying that, in context of having to move:

  • 60 days notice is pretty damn reasonable
  • not shutting off the utilities is stupid
  • not cleaning is annoying
  • complaining about the amount of work involved in finding a new place and expecting sympathy from someone else who just did the same thing but managed to both shut off utilities and clean up is presumptuous

**eenerms **said it was a lame rant, and it is. But it’s not an unjustified rant, and she does not deserve the abuse she is getting from you, Diogenes.

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Exactly. I could move in a fairly short amount of time-- but even here, where rent is DIRT cheap and the common arrangement is first month’s rent plus about half a month’s rent as deposit, there have been times in my life where I would have been hard-pressed to come up with that extra $2-300, plus whatever the difference was from my current rent to the new place, if it cost more.

The whole “should have had a lease” thing is nice, except-- what if they HAD had a lease and it had been up in two months? It’s not like having a lease means you can automatically expect to stay in your place another year or six months.

Corr

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To be fair, this is the Pit and undeserved abuse is par for the course.

Dio, though, deserves all he can get. I think he enjoys it. Generous soul that I am, I’ll gladly heap it on as the situation requires.

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Dio, while I think see what you’re saying, I still feel you’re incorrect. What the OP seems to be complaining about is the fact that, despite the fact they had they same amount of time and stressful things to deal with (barring the relatively minor task of finding a place to live*), the OP managed to find time to do everything a good tenent should do, while their rentee did nothing and tried to blame the OP for what wasn’t done.
While I feel bad for the OP’s tenents, there’s a certain number of things you need to do when you move out, regardless of the ( if reasonable) time given. Their tenents didn’t bother to do any of the basics, beyond getting themselves and their stuff out. It made additional work for the OP, work they didn’t need or really have time for. On top of that, the tenents tried to made them feel bad for doing what was beyond fair and “ruining their vacation.” Life sucks, and vacations aren’t always what you plan/want them to be.
** from my own experiences living in the Vegas area and from friends who still live there, Finding a place anywhere in Nevada isn’t hard. I found twenty places in eight days from Henderson to Reno to live, well within my budget (which was low). Unless things have changed in the last month, the OP’s tenents have no sympathy from me*

Peace - DESK

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I seem to recall somewhere upthread it was mentioned that if the month-to-month tenants of 7 years had decided to up and leave (after finding somewhere new for themselves without warning the landlord, of course), the OP would have had to scramble to find a new tenant.

Fair is fair.

I used to rent before we started buying our homes, and if I wanted stability, I got a year lease. If I wanted the option of a quick exit, I also had to assume the risk of a quick exit.

60 days’ notice is plenty generous for an owner. And good golly! The tenants had to change their plans because of the owner’s change in plans? Welcome to the world of being at the mercy of others. This is unusual?

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So, let me get this straight. We all seem to have missed the fact that the tennants had planned to move anyway. Yeah, it fell through, but I imagine they’d been planning on it for a while. Why did they have a vacation in the works if they expected to be moving? They must have also had a little preliminary packing done etc.

I kind of get the feeling that mentioning the vacation was just a cheap shot. I also doubt they were all that attatched to the place if they were already planning to move.

About coming up with the money to move, well wouldn’t they have a wad handy to use as a down payment on the place they were going to buy? Even if it was all financed, if they could afford to buy, chances are they could afford to come up with moving money.

Around here, at least in the places we’ve rented, it’s just first month’s rent and about half a month damage deposit. Now assuming you haven’t trashed the place and have left it reasonably clean, the landlord is supposed to give your deposit back. Then you apply it to the next place. If the rent’s roughly the same, you’ll have that too since you’d have needed to pay it anyway. Utilities get transferred and the charge appears on the next bill, not immediately. It’s just not that hard. Heck, I’ve moved on a couple of weeks notice when I was eight months pregnant. At the time we lived in New Westminster, in an area full of little three story apartment buildings. When we got our notice, we simply walked down the street, found a place with a vacancy sign and had a place in a few minutes. Moved by shopping cart and buddy’s truck. No problem.

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'Round here, the norm is first months rent plus one months rent for deposit, and you usually have to wait up to 30 days to get your deposit from your old landlord. But, there are vacant apartments everywhere and I’d be willing to bet that those landlords with vacant apartments would be willing to be a little flexable to fill their vacancies. Most landlords will give you one month free if you sign a one year lease. You make something happen to make sure you have a place to live. Its the responsible adult thing to do.

Calling your utility companies takes about an hour tops. Its the responsible adult thing to do.

As far as buying a house not working out…that happens. If the seller really backed out, then the buyer should’ve at least gotten their good faith money back if not rent money from the seller until they found a new place. You never move on a shoestring because other costs always crop up. Its the responsible adult thing to do.

What the tennant probably wanted to do was to overlap the rental and the purchased home, which is what I did. I fixed up my condo while still living at my apartment. I can’t imagine trying to work on this place with all my stuff in it since I did alot of pulling and painting woodwork, sanding and fixing and painting walls, etc. I made sure that my lease and my contract to buy overlapped. Its the responsible adult thing to do.

The OP never said if the tennants asked for more time and she turned them down, but I am guessing that they are taking out their frustration with their home-buying process out on their former landlord. Not the responsible adult thing to do…

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Thanks Fluiddruid :slight_smile:

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Oh crap… :smack:

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No problem. :slight_smile:

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Does it seem to anyone else that there is a growing attitude that adults aren’t really adults, they’re big children and should get special protection?

Like the recent huge thread over firing. No matter if you don’t show up on time, leave early, assault coworkers, simply can’t do the job. No matter if you’ve been given warnings and pointed to psychiatric and job training resources. No matter what, firing an employee is ‘brutal’ because the poor soul will no longer be getting a paycheck from you. :rolleyes:

Now it’s, no matter if the tenants have chosen to live on a month-to-month tenancy, no matter if they’ve been voluntarily given twice the legally required notice. Asking tenants to move out makes you a cold-hearted, uncaring bitch.

And there have been other threads that come across the same way, like a toddler stamping his foot and screaming “It’s not fair!” when told to go to bed:

Employees who bitch and moan about having to meet the company’s dress code.

Or having to work required hours that interfere with fun activities the employee would rather be doing.

Or hissy fits thrown when someone makes a mistake in assembling a sandwich. (I’m not saying you shouldn’t point out errors and get them fixed, but acting like the employee has done whatever for the evil pleasure of pissing you off?)
Maybe I’m showing my age, but there used to be this condition called ‘being a adult’ or ‘having maturity’ and achieving it mean you were expected to have some self-control, emotional stability, sense of responsibility, knowledge of community standards and a will to meet them, and so forth.

And that you were aware of the easily predictable consequences of your actions (if you screw up at work, you get fired; if you rent month to month, you can be asked to move in four weeks) and either did what was necessary to avoid incurring the consequences OR at least shut up and dealt as gracefully as possible when they happen.

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Well said, Starving. Sense of Responsibility has given was to Sense of Entitlement. It’s endemic and it’s disgusting.

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I concur with both of you. Life’s a bitch. Suck it up, princess.

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To be fair, StarvingButStrong, there was only one person bitching about people getting fired. The majority agreed the person had it coming.