So What Are The Rules For Opening Doors For People?

I believe the rule book calls for a kick in the junk.

I believe if you check the rule book you’ll find “kick in the junk” listed as a mandated penalty for “Drink, Offering to Buy” and/or “Heavy Packages, Offering to Carry” but listed only as optional for “Door, Opening of”.

This is of course before the more draconian penalties are set forth for such egregious affronts as “Street, Offering to Help Old Lady Cross” and “New Hairstyle, Complimenting On”, much less “Hey Baby, Yelling Of,” which as we all know is a death-penalty offense.

And then there’s “New Hairstyle, Not Even Noticing”.

That gives me a good idea for a harmless “Candid Camera” style prank, which probably seems funnier to me at the moment than it ever will if I tried it. But I sympathize with both sides of that door-holding scenario; I’ve been the scurrier, I’ve been the holder. Usually what happens when I’m the holder is that I’ve passed someone else on the way to the door and I misjudge how closely they are following behind by the time I get to said door; I hold it and glance back, seeing that they are lagging behind and at that point my choices are to (a) continue to hold open the door until they reach it, scurrying or no or (b) look like a jerk and let go of the door, possibly sending the perceived message that I looked back at them and decided that they weren’t worthy of my efforts at door-holding.

Worst door-holding anecdote I ever heard was from my own mother: she was entering a grocery store (no automatic doors on this particular store) and she held the door for a middle-aged black woman who appeared to be moving at glacier speed. My mom allowed the woman to pass through ahead of her and as she passed the woman said to my mom, “you’re learning, whitey.” :frowning:

This is going to sound very un-PC – even racist – but the majority of people that have done that to me have been black women. I’m a white man. I wonder if it’s some “I’m not going to be subservient to a white man” thing, or something else in AA culture, thgat is responsible for the door-slamming among black women.

You know, I was walking past a construction site with a female coworker, who is in her late 30’s and not bad looking at all. They “wolf-whistled” her. This made her get her “mad face on” until I said “But consider this- wouldn’t you feel insulted if they *didn’t * whistle?”. Which made her laugh and her day.
(Note that I don’t condone crude sexist comments like “lookat the ass on that one!” “Hey baby, want a mustache ride” and so on)
gigi. We notice. But my momma always trained me to “don’t say anything if you can’t say nothing nice”- and since most “new hairstyles”= chopping off lot’s of that lovely hair we like", most of us have learned not to say anything. My friend leanred this lesson. His Wife came back with a new shorter 'do. I happen to know he prefers longer hair. He praised it. Next month- even shorter. More praise. Next month she was just this side of Sinead, and unhappy husband. She thought she was making him happy too- that he liked it.

Exactly how many people is one expected to hold the door open for? There have ben times when I’ve opened a door for a woman behind me, only to find that there’s a line of about 20 women behind her. Do I stand there like a doorman and hold it open for all of them? If I close it, which person do I close it on?

I hold it for all of them because I can never decide whose face to slam it in.

I would watch to see if any of them bring their hand up to the door and when they do, I would ‘hand off’ the door opening responsibility to the women. If they’re following each other that closely, it’s not likely that the door is going to slam in their faces anyway.

Bravo. :cool: Too true.

You can’t do much to earn a worse impression from me than let a door close in my face. Something I NEVER do. Even when my hands are full, I will keep it open with a foot if someone is coming close behind me.

If have trouble deciding how far away a person can be before it’s okay to let the door close on them. I figure within 3-5 steps is close enough to hold it for them.

This has become a major pet peeve of mine! I hold the door for anyone approaching (male or female) lest the door close in their face, and I can’t tell you how many times I’ve held the door for females of various ages (usually teen through middle-age; older women are usually polite and friendly and readily say thanks) and had them breeze right through as though I weren’t even there. Occasionally, a woman will say thanks but I’d say 95% of them sweep through with nary a word. (The men always say thanks.) The last time this happened I finally got fed up and said “I would say don’t mention it, but then…YOU ALREADY HAVEN’T!”

That got ignored, too.

I cannot imagine having the gall to behave this way! It pisses me off bigtime but I’m not about to start letting doors close in peoples’ faces just because they might be rude, but one of these days someone’s gonna get a very unwelcome earful in front of a whole store full of people!

I use a wheelchair (and to answer a previous question, if there was room I’d open and hold the door for the old dude with the packages and the pregnant woman with the stroller :smiley: ).

One weird “courtesy” that seems to only relate to people wanting to help the disabled (at least, I’ve never seen guys do it for gals) is holding open automatic doors?! Umm… The door is automatic; it’s opening all by itself. You don’t need to hold it. Really you don’t.

and please don’t jump in front of me to grab a door when I’m using my electric scooter and am already most of the way through the doorway unless you want tire tracks down your back

My experience is very different from yours. In my experience the majority of women and men say thank you and the ones who don’t are equally women and men.

I held a door for a lady once. She looked disgusted and called me sexist. “You don’t have to hold the door for me because I’m a lady!”

“I didn’t,” I said. “I held it because I’m a gentleman.”

How ya doin’, Siege? Long time no talk!

Shit, apologies Khadaji, I’d forgotten I’d posted here, didn’t mean to ignore you.

Well, it’s more like the whole country, not just the neighbourhood. For all it’s beauty, South Africa is plagued with a huge crime problem, and violent crime at that.

http://crimepages.co.za/

No aplogies needed. I often don’t go back to a thread once I post, so I figured you had just missed my question. :slight_smile:

The one with the smallest breasts.
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My Mom lived most of her adult life in Memphis. A thrilling moment for her came as she entered a shop as a tall, dark gentleman was exiting and held the door for her. He even smiled and spoke to her. Elvis was nothing if not polite.

When I approach a door, I’ll open it if I’m the first to arrive or let the other person go first. When I open a door, I’ll push it open behind me to make it a tad easier for the person following. I don’t hold the door unless those behind are laden with packages or quite old or quite young or otherwise not up to opening it themselves. I might sometimes hold it if I want a closer look at the behind of a young female. If a building has exceptionally heavy doors I will sometimes open and hold for a person that I think might have trouble pulling it open. Revolving doors are every man for himself, I generally like to go in first so I can have the burden of starting it in motion.