So what's the deal with the "Galactic Alignment"?

In My Humble Opinion
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I’m brown skinned myself. That’s ridiculous. Is it not fact that the Mayan cal3nder is extremely accurate, even more so than the current Georgian cal3nder??? They had no tools to map this out themselves. No calculators for the mathematics. How do you explain those statues? Seems like an astronaut to me, unless they are fake.

Anyways, I cannot wait for the new documentary coming out this year that will shed a lot of light on the Mayan predictions:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/17/idUS269735214920110817

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/26/idUS309928438220111026

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/26/idUS333894436320110926

Unless of course the governments step in and stop it! There is of course the chance that this is sensationalism and misrepresentation and untrue, but I don’t think so. There will be at least some truth to this documentary if not the whole thing. Depends how greedy the producers are. But sometimes some sensationalism is needed to sell a documentary. It doesn’t mean you discredit the whole film! Same can be said about the Ancient Aliens TV show. A lot of it is sensationalism and speculation, even outright lies. But you can’t discredit 100% of the whole series because of this! For instance the Bigfoot episode. Really? LOL But there seems to be increasing evidence of ancient aliens, that is just crazy to ignore. The whole Mayan civilization is so twisted and warped by different people trying to make money, people write off the whole notion as a scam, but these people are only trying to take advantage of a real situation! Much like news companies make money off of bad things. Sometimes people misrepresent the truth about a war. It doesn’t mean the war isn’t happening!!

Many people think the holocaust didn’t happen or even 9/11 didn’t happen because people misrepresent the truth.

I’ve done a lot of research on this, and even if the Galactic Alignment is false, there is truth to at least SOME of the ancient alien theory. I hope this documentary provides clear and concise evidence for this theory, which people will understand. I know many of you are skeptics and may remain skeptics. I don’t really care, it doesn’t effect me any. I myself am not 100% as it is a lot of circumstantial evidence, make no mistake about it. But when you take all the circumstantial evidence together, it really seems like truth. Just like a court case with circumstantial evidence. Sometimes you can clearly see that it was most likely this person, but the verdict is not guilty because there is still that 1 perecent that he is innocent. The same with this theory. There is no explanation for a lot of these mysterious of ancient earth. Ancient Aliens provides a good theory. But maybe there is another explanation? Most likely not, but maybe there is. As the evidence is circumstantial.

I think there is a 99% chance of ancient aliens or at least time travelers that use wormholes/blackholes to time travel. But much more likely ancient aliens. Or a combination/mixing of both.

Like I said, there is a lot of misinformation and untruth to all of this. And people are quick to write it off and dismiss the whole theory! This is similar to what Biblical apologists do. A lot of the contradictions in the Bible can be easily written off with an explaination that could make sense! I’d say 95% of them. But there is still that 5% that disproves the Bible, which apologists either ignore or provide some silly apology for it that doesn’t make sense. Many of you know this to be true!!!

Biblical apologists keep a lot from knowing the truth about the Bible. They still believe the Bible is divine because of apologists. Why? Because they take other people’s word for it without researching themselves. They don’t do further research on the subject! This is EXACTLY like the ancient alien theory. Just because some people who support the theory are nutjobs doesn’t mean the whole theory is wack. A lot is sensationalism and untruth, but there is still a lot that is unexplained, mysterious and explain with the theory.

Dr. Michio Kaku himself admits that 95% of UFO stories are false. Misrepresentations, etc. BUT there is 5% that is unexplained! It is a mystery! There are good eye witnesses to some of this stuff. Not nutjobs, but government officials. Kaku said this himself. Kaku is not a nutjob, he is one of the best physicists of our day! His words: We don’t have the smoking gun to prove Alien UFOs exist, BUT we do have the smoke.

Like I said, a lot of circumstantial evidence. Kaku himself knows this. But when you put it all together, it makes sense.

TL;DR I believe there is 99% truth to Alien UFOs, the Ancient Alien theory in general, and Mayan astronomical predictions which they got from ETs. Does this mean I believe everything said about 2012, UFOs, and Ancient Alien theory? NO. 95% of it is untruth, and misrepresentation. This is what the skeptics get a hold of. But it is the 5% of it that you have to “worry” about! (Not literal worry, but just think about it.)

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and another article on the documentary: http://www.thewrap.com/movies/column-post/mayan-documentary-warn-human-race-impending-catastrophe-36576

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Since the OP is more interested in presenting his opinion in spite of evidence to the contrary, let’s move this from General Questions to IMHO.

samclem, Moderator

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I hope you weren’t being sarcastic, because this is actually more circumstantial proof, yes. I don’t remember the exact article, and I am not a history major, so I am sorry I do not know the specifics, but the theory is that word got to the King of England and then whoever wrote the Gregorian calender about the Mayan prophecies. After going over the evidence, the King, or whoever saw that it looked to be true. So he ordered the Gregorian calender be made to fit this date, so that it would be easily recognizable and understood by the people living at this time. This is why it is a 12 month calender instead of a 13 months consisting of 28 days each month which was the standard for civilizations calenders including the Mayan. This would have been so much easier, it is peculiar that we have a 12 month calender today. Please look it up if you wish, I don’t know how accurate any of this is, but it does seem plausible to me!

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I am suggesting Cecil to do an article on this. This is why it was posted in General Questions???

Can you move it back please?

Or at least leave a ghost thread in the general questions category.

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This is like saying what sort of evidence would you consider proof that the theory of evolution is wrong?

The evidence points to the theory of evolution to be correct. I am not sure what I would consider proof that it isn’t correct because there has been nothing to show as of yet that it isn’t. I’m not saying it is 100% correct.

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Garbonzo607, you are rehashing old, tired speculations and long-ago discredited crackpot theories. Do you really think this is new? Unexamined?

True. We can definitely prove there were ancients.

If none of the evidence is valid, accumulating more of it does not make it more valid. It just makes the presenter look more like a tinfoil hat nutter.

Just because 5% cannot be explained does not mean it is unexplainable. Perhaps with more info, they could be explained. Nevertheless, just because something cannot be explained doesn’t mean aliens did it.

And there you have it. You aren’t looking for the truth, you are looking for substantiation for what you believe. That may be your opinion, but it’s not science. I hope you can understand the difference.

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It’s funny that just because of this 2012 business everyone’s falling all over themselves about how awesome the Mayans were at astronomy.

What most people don’t realize was that in the past, before modern technology, everyone was awesome at astronomy. The stars are up every night, they follow predictable patterns. If you have nothing better to do at night than look up, then you too will become awesome at astronomy. The Greeks were so awesome at astronomy that they calculated the circumference of the Earth and the distance to the Moon thousands of years before the Mayans.

Yes, the Mayans were good at astronomy, for their time. But with modern technology, we are much much better at astronomy than any past civilization. Did the Mayans even have a concept of what a galaxy was? Without a telescope there’s no way to tell that the Milky Way we see in the sky is a large disk of stars. Why would the Mayans have any concept of “galactic alignment” if they didn’t even know the Earth went around the Sun? You’d think that if they were visited by ancient aliens that’d be one of the first misconceptions the aliens would clear up for them.

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A Pliocene fossil in an undisturbed pre-Cambrian deposit, or a creature that doesn’t fall into the hierarchical taxonomy (a “crocoduck” for example) would be strong evidence against evolution. What would be evidence against the idea that the Mayans knew something astronomically significant about December 21st?

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Thanks for clarifying this.

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I am curious at to exactly what it means for one calendar to be ‘more accurate’ than another. If we’re talking about predictions of astronomical events like eclipses, that’s one thing, but the calendar itself is mostly just a series of different intervals that repeat in cycles.

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I agree. I was watching a documentary called M.I.B. (Men In Black) and it touched on most of these types of things. Basically there are aliens living among us and we don’t even know.

But “K” (that’s one of the agents, I don’t think they wanted to use his real name, for security purposes), he’s able to spot them.

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Exactly. Men in Black is based on a true story. The government is covering up a lot of it, just like in MIB. As with anything based on a true story, there are creative licenses obtained. The characters are fictional, the aliens are fictional. There wouldn’t be that many Aliens and diverse of Aliens like the movie shows. /sarcasm I wouldn’t be surprised if the government had a mind wiper like in the movie, however unlikely. We know telepathy is possible. That is in effect reading a language. Reading the brain language. So mind control would just be speaking a language. Inputting something in a brain. But I’m not sure it could work wirelessly. Maybe. If it can intercept brain wave and replace them? I have no idea, I was just watching a speech by Dr. Kaku that said Telepathy will be realized soon.

Anyway, I’m not sure if there was a point to your post besides making a joke. Aka were you making fun of me or just making a joke?

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If telepathy was real, you would know we’re making fun of you.

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Sooo…these Galactic Mayans: do they have a flag?

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Is “realize” the right word? If one is never taught this, how could one know? As the song goes, “You’ve got to be Carefully Taught.” To the best of my recollection, the two facts, above, weren’t taught in the Astronomy courses I took in college.

(Of course, that was a while ago… Pulsars were still really new stuff at the time…)

I do seem to recall being taught that galaxies don’t have really sharp edges; the topology gets mushy. There isn’t a sharp “barrier” as in Star Trek. You just find fewer and fewer stars, farther and farther apart. The envelope can’t be described with the kind of exactness that the prophecy alluded to in the OP would require.

We don’t have a galactic “GPS” system, that can tell us our position to within a tenth of a light-year.

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I’m pretty sure the Galactic Alignment is Chaotic Neutral.

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Obviously if the date passes and nothing significant happens! LOL

This is not to say a new theory won’t take it’s place. Depends on what evidence it has backing it up. Others say it might be Dec. 24th. I’ll wait until Christmas until I give up hope. Christmas is a great day to start a new mindset.

I was raised religious, so I grew up believing fantasies and myths believing they were true. Maybe I was raised to want to have something to look forward to in life besides regular human goals. At least believing this isn’t damaging others like a lot of religions. And it’s not imperative that you need to know this to my knowledge. It’s just good to know. And it’s always good to look into alternative theories, since a round earth was an alternative theory at one point. America may not have been discovered until English technology advanced enough if not for alternative theories. There is just a lot of conflicting sources found on the internet that can cloud this theory. It’s good to be skeptic, but you guys are taking it too far. You refuse to believe anything that isn’t universally accepted by your authorities. I can’t blame you, this is human nature. Just like Hitler’s Germany. Godwin’s law, I know, but it is true! I am not sure I wouldn’t have agreed with Hitler (especially if I was an Arian with blue eyes) if I lived in Germany at that time. Because we always assume our authorities are doing the right thing.

Sometimes you need to do your own research, which can be done more easily now with the internet, but with the wealth of information you have to pick the good from the bad.

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That’s like saying if nuclear bombs were real you would have dropped one on me. Or if hacking were real, you would have hacked me by now. O.o

Plus, you weren’t even the OP I was responding to, so WTF? You have telepathy to know he was making fun or me or are you strawmanning?

Maybe. We might find out.

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But don’t you see? You’re putting faith in an authority too, with all the “research” you’re doing. How do you know the Mayan calendar ends in 2012? How do you know the Mayans used astronomy to make predictions? How do you know the Mayans even existed at all?

Conspiracy theorists love to boast about how wonderfully skeptical they are by not following the main authority, but all they’re doing is following a different authority. Unless you’re a Mayan scholar, you don’t really “know” anything about Mayans, so you have to rely on others to do the research for you.

Those of us who disagree about the existence of ancient aliens have simply chosen to follow an authority that we believe is more trustworthy. Don’t play the “You’re all sheeple, I’m the only one doing real research!” card because all you’re doing is putting your faith elsewhere.

So ask yourself, why do you trust what these websites say over professional astronomers? Do you think those websites really are more accurate, or do you just want them to be?