I should’ve known from the thread title that this would be a waste of time. Actually, I did know. Anyone claiming to have ‘solved’ ethics like it’s a geometric proof is, umm, underinformed.
Anyway, it was a semi-enjoyable waste of time.
This is some of the gishiest gallop I’ve seen on the message board in all the many years.
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Doesn’t address anything that tomndebb stated about the meaning of jealousy. Who or what are you responding to?
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“Conspicious consumption” means something else entirely than how you’re using the words and thus doesn’t address what was said with respect to wedding ceremonies and relationships.
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Neuro-linguistic-programming (NLP) has been discredited as pseudo science since the 1980’s. It’s meaningless jargon designed to obfuscate meaning by impressing gullible people with pseudo scientific words that don’t mean anything. Perhaps you missed the discredited part while doing time in hell (400 billion years, give or take).
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What in the hell does that have to do with my enjoyment of playing chess against the computer? I’m okay with losing and I’m pretty sure the computer doesn’t take it personally when I win the occasional match.
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You don’t know shit about women. QED.
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Don’t bother.
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Gibberish.
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Consensual sex is good. Rape is bad. No-one is entitled to the former. The latter is a crime that ought to be punished by 400 Billion years in hell, give or take.
6.) Temples are breeding grounds for acquiring contradictory statements for the mating ritual, they, themselves are a contradiction as well, you are your own temple, always, building one outside of yourself like this is the conspicuous consumption of the fact that no matter where you go, you are always the only and final stop for non-hypocrisy - walking into a temple, not only doesn’t make you a non-hypocrite; the very act of walking into one, makes you a hypocrite. On the issue of celibacy and chastity; first and foremost, most of them are lying!! They have sex!! So let’s address the ones that are telling the truth. They have taken a vow. Not all vows are moral. Is this a moral vow? The statement is that nobody should be able to share sexual intimacy with me, forever, in order for me to be a good person. So people who have sex are necessarily bad? “I don’t judge people” “Sure you do, you, by your actions are judging that it’s good for you to never have sex; while contradicting yourself by stating that you don’t judge people; contradiction is an act of aggression, you are using a form of violence to seduce people. I would even go so far as to state that instead of working with this issue, you have chosen to abstain from it, and by virtue of that, ignore it, which is also an act of aggression.” Asexual people are one thing, people who need to clear their sex heads are one thing - but taking a sexual being and then abstaining forever, because it’s “correct” is absurd. It also provides these people with a form of social security, because they are not seen as sexual threats to anyone; so they trade distributing a resource that has a positive impact if used appropriately, for social status and security. To this regard, they have quit doing the hard work of having sex appropriately, which the species needs; to just ignoring the entire problem and not helping anyone to this regard; refusing to acknowledge that they are a resource anyways, but that they have decided distributing this aspect of the resource that is them, is wrong, not helpful. That’s a summary anyhow.
Also, if you make suicide humane, the attempters are likely not to use it, and simply check themselves into a clinic.
The solution to ethics is flawless, if suicide is as easy as possible, and nobody commits it, then the purpose for living life is inherently present, relative to if people choose suicide under the same conditions.
I’ll get to the other quick response to the 8 points soon.
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According to this … person, not only do women not want sex, they are unable to give consent for sex. Clearly, he believes that only men have actual moral agency, preferences, and the capability to make decisions. In other words, he’s a rabid sexist who doesn’t believe women are equal in any way to what he considers actual humans, i.e. men.
No, it isn’t.
Sorry - didn’t mean to rough you up there…
1.) Tomanddeb stated that jealousy was about them not wanting to leave the relationship, this is a contradiction to the statement that they don’t want anyone to want the person the way that they do; they contradicted their own statement, representing in their argument the exact point I made, while coming off as reciting it; that’s also hypocrisy.
2.) Nope, in the same way that a modified tailpipe on a truck is the conspicuous consumption of driving a truck, a wedding is the conspicuous consumption of relationship.
3.) Conditioning. It works. Most people feel social pressure to say their day is “ok, nice, good” - this changes thinking patterns.
4.) If the computer is infinitely good and you are infinitely good; it no longer becomes “fun” or even possible to play - your purpose for playing the game, if logically consistent is to win in the manner you see fit. As I repeat; the end game, taking the motivation, leaves no game; making it hypocritical to play it, orienting your psychology for contradiction; and making you a viable mate.
5.) Women have vaginas. QED. Hypocrisy. QED. Now I know why you have one.
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7.) Gibberish that life can be abusive to people, and that not all people who experience that want to stay. Anyone can call something gibberish that’s flawlessly accurate, and see if they can acquire ego points for destroying wealth.
8.) Considering that rapists get most the “consensual sex” as well… I think you need to contemplate what your mind is trying to say about people deserving or not deserving sex more than others.
Not a good person, a good priest. The basis of the Catholic Church’s requirement for clerical celibacy isn’t that having sex makes you a bad person, but rather:
Basically, you can’t be fully devoted to the Lord if you’re also devoted to a spouse. Priests must be fully devoted to the Lord. That’s it.
Generally, it helps to read up on a topic before making proclamations about it.
How about your acts of aggression in this thread, any thoughts on those?
Just like in 2014, you wildly misunderstand suicide and its causes. See that thread for all the evidence for this that (which you ignored at the time, but the links probably still work).
The problem is that women don’t have sex with non-hypocrites.
Since hypocrites are assholes by definition, heterosexual men are the only gender accountable to being a good person to get a resource of any sort, in order to not be the thing they hate. If females are punished for being hypocrites, that is abuse through neglect; and makes the male a hypocrite… so females not only, only have sex with hypocrites, heterosexual males are the only population on earth accountable to being a good person. By default, all gays and females are exempt.
That’s a lot of ugliness and/or hatred to pack into one short paragraph.
As a bisexual male, how do I rate on your scale?
It’s true. I’m not much of a hypocrite, so I don’t hate it, because I don’t hate that about myself. I respect myself for not getting mad, I didn’t respect myself when I was mad, and now I’m trying to create conditions where everyone can have everything they want without someone else not being able to have it. It’s a lot of work; work none of you are even trying to do. I take pride in my life, that I’m working towards something meaningful; what’s to hate anymore, besides, being mad at women, just made me a hypocrite. Women by default have no moral accountability, because they have no complaint that bitches get the most men. Since it’s not a complaint, they’re not accountable to it.
The female sex in all cases, is like taking advantage of a drunk person, who has personality changes; which some people do and some people don’t when they’re drunk; and then passing it off, as “fair game”. That’s a closer analogy.
If women want to be respected for their choices, then they should stop having sex with only hypocrites. It’s very easy for non-hypocritical females to get sex. If they appreciate that about men, maybe they should return the favor.
Would you mind answering the question I actually asked, instead of continuing your monologue?
What is your opinion when it comes to bisexual men?
I answered you question exactly. All the female sex requires hypocrisy. The male sex does not. How was that not answering your question?
You specifically said that heterosexual males do not.
I am bisexual, so where do I(and other bisexual males) stand?
You’re kidding me right? I answered the question. I’ll expand it. Homosexuals (lesbians, gays, trans) do not have the complaint within those populations that the assholes get the most choice. Because, they don’t, it’s not a truth in those populations. Heterosexual women, also, do not have the complaint or observation, that bitches, get the most men, or the most choice. It’s also, not a truth in that population. Because it’s not a truth in those populations. It’s not a complaint in those populations, because it’s not a complaint in those populations, they aren’t accountable to representing being “not an asshole or bitch” in order to not be a hypocrite.
The only population on earth that has this complaint, is heterosexual men, they’ve been saying this for thousands of years. Because of this, in order to not be a hypocrite, they are the only population on earth that is actually accountable to being a good person, to get any type of resource, particularly sex; to the extent that the resource is also considered “good” or “valuable”.
It doesn’t mean gays and females can’t work on being good, they just aren’t accountable to being good people, in the same way that heterosexual males are actually accountable to being good people.
I am neither gay or heterosexual. Do you understand what I mean when I say I am bisexual?
I don’t know why you’re playing this word game with me. Bisexual means attracted to men and women. For the male sex; no hypocrisy. For the female sex; hypocrisy.
This is no “word game”-this is me trying to find out where I stand in your eyes as a bisexual. Along those same lines, you said that “Homosexuals (lesbians, gays, trans) do not have the complaint within those populations that the assholes get the most choice.” You do realize that “transsexual” is not necessarily a subset of “homosexual”, don’t you?
Have you maybe considered that some men who have sex with women (and vice versa) are decent and non-hypocritical people, and maybe it’s just your perception and judgement that’s out of whack?