Hi, I have been spending sometime on trying to remember stories from my Childhood,
mostly Biblical and Religious things which are in fractions in my Mind.
For example, I remember something like this, that God had this fight with the Archangels and that the “fallen” Archangel “Lucifer” got a lease on the World for a certain period of time, in which he can do whatever he want’s, so he goes and corrupts the Human with desirous thoughts and greed.
When the lease expires God will defeat “Lucifer” and a 1000?Year Peacefull time will be for the Righteous People?
An other thing are the other Archangels, the ones who got locked up in “the Ark of the Covenant”?
Also something about the “Tower to Babel” and the “Queen of Sheba”? And King Salomon, where are the connections in this stories?
I don’t want to read the whole Bible, so I was hopeing to find some enlightment here on the SDM.
Thanks:)
Especially see the “Satan as Lucifer” section. It’ll help you out some:
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I think this is a bit too open-ended for GQ. Although it’s not a debate as yet, since it’s about religion, it will probably end up that was. Let’s try GD.
Colibri
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Archangels locked up in the Ark of the Covenant? Perhaps you really do need to read the Bible rather than the Cliff Notes version.
A lot of the classic Bible Stories are in the Book of Genesis. You could just read that, it’s not very long.
Nearly everything that people “know” about Satan/Lucifer/The Apocalypse is legend that has grown up around the Bible. Much of it, in fact, comes from Dante’s Divine Comedy and Milton’s Paradise Lost, neither of which is part of the religious canon (they’re just popular fiction, effectively). Basically whatever you learned as a kid could be any of several thousand options depending not only on your denomination, but who your preacher was and what he fancied.
There isn’t really a story for the Ark of the Covenant. God tells the Jews to build it. They do. They stick it in the Temple. Eventually the Temple is destroyed. There’s not much more to it than that, unless I’m grossly misrecalling.
Tower of Babel - http://ebible.org/web/Genesis.htm#C11V1
King Solomon and Queen of Sheba - http://ebible.org/web/1Kings.htm
So then where does Indiana Jones come in?
****That darn Justin Bibel. Cant stand him.
The stuff with Lucifer & the Archangels is extra-biblical. I don’t know who invented it, but it’s not anywhere in the Bible that I’m aware of. Well, maybe some bits in some of the smaller books & Apocrypha, but most people in the English-speaking world get it from Milton as Sage Rat said.
The Lease on the World, & its end in a Messianic Age, is from an interpretation of a bit in John’s Apocalypse (aka Revelation).
I don’t remember anyone locked up in the Ark of the Covenant, but you may be misremembering something else from the Apocalypse–saints under an altar for some unexplained reason, iirc.
The Tower of Babel was a tower in Babel (ancient Babylon) which failed to “reach Heaven”–not really that surprising from the standpoint of modern engineering & planetology.
The Queen of Sheba has a moderately extensive extrabiblical mythology, but was probably just a queen from a now-forgotten power of the day.
Is bibel some type of bisexual tort?
This reminds me of some young teen kids who were asking me about a Bible movie featuring a cow from Hell & about Jesus’ quilt.
The quilt was easy enough to figure out but it was months before I realized that the ‘cow from Hell’ was the Judgment against those who worshipped the Golden Calf scene in THE TEN COMMANDMENTS.
Ummm…maybe I’m just particularly dense tonight, but ‘Jesus’ quilt’?
All I can come up with is Joseph’s coat of many colors, but I don’t remember that from the movie…
Sorry, they were two different subjects. Only the Hell-cow was part of the movie. I should have phrased it…
This reminds me of some young teen kids who were asking me about Jesus’ quilt & about a Bible movie featuring a cow from Hell.
The quilt, of course, was the Shroud.
To the OP- Archangels locked up in the Ark? There were two Cherubim figures on the lid of the Ark. Also, Revelation 9 talks about Four Angels bound at the Euphrates River who have some control over a Demonic Cavalry. Are you thinking about the Biblical accounts of the Glory of God being upon the Ark smiting those who profane it & also the movie “Raiders of the Lost Ark” in which the lid is removed & the Angel of Death smites the Nazis?
This sound like it’s from Jonn Milton’s Paradise Lost, although I’m not sure about the lease part. It’s not in the Bible.
The thousand years of peace is part of John’s Apocolypse, aka the Book of Revelation. There are many, many different interpretations of exactly what this means, when it will occur, who will experence it, etc. If you do decide to read any part of the Bible, I don’t recommend starting with Revelation.
This is from Raiders of the Lost Ark. In the Bible, the only things in the ark are the tablets of the Ten Commandments, some manna, and maybe some other artifacts. There are angels inscribed on the top of the ark.
Read Genesis chapter 11. Basically the men of the city of Babel decide to build a tower to reach heaven, and God prevents this by confusing their language so they can’t talk to each other. This is the Bible’s explanation for the multitude of human languages in the world.
The Queen of Sheba was a Queen from somewhere in Africa who had dealings with Isreal’s King Solomon. You can read about her visit to Solomon in I Kings chapter 10 or II Chronicles chapter 9.
You don’t have to read the whole thing – most of these stories are less than a few pages if you know where to look.
Thanks:)
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The Bible. You will find a short Wikipedia article on each of the 66 books of the canon. Read those, or as many as interest you. (Who really wants or needs to know anything about Proverbs? Ecclesiastes is at least interesting as literature, and as the nearest ancient Hebrew culture ever got to philosophy.) They will cover all the highlights – and every interpretation ever placed on them by preachers, scholars or theologians.
The surprising part of that story is that God, who had to peer down really hard even to see the construction site from Heaven, seemed to be genuinely frightened that it actually would reach Heaven.
Or from Yemen. Or both, in a kingdom straddling the Bab el Mandeb strait. See Sheba.
Given what mankind has done to the world, what are the odds on Lucifer getting his deposit back when the lease is over?
Since it’s so short, here is the story of Solomon and the Queen of Sheba: