Something I've always wondered re: Flight 93, Mark Bingham, and reactions...

Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
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An article on a recent memorial resparked a question that’s passed through my mind occasionally: has there ever been anyone who wanted to exclude Mark Bingham from memorials and such because he was gay? It’s always struck me that it must produce some cognitive dissonance in a certain sector of folks, who admire and are very gung-ho about what the folks on Flight 93 did, yet think homosexuality is an abomination before God. I’ve wondered what those people think and do, and how they might react to any attempt to exclude Bingham.

Just a random curiosity, appropriate for MPSIMS. Thanks in advance!

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For those of us who don’t recognize the name on sight, here’s the Wikipedia article on Mr. Bingham. As with any Wikipedia article, it’s subject to editing, vandalism, etc.

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I’ve certainly never heard of such a thing and I would be very surprised to hear of anything like that.

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He was referred to in a Melissa Etheridge song … something about people denying his heroism because of his sexuality. Let me see if I can find it.

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The song was “Tuesday Morning”.

Here’s an article with cites about the song

http://www.allacademic.com/meta/p_mla_apa_research_citation/2/3/2/0/7/p232079_index.html

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First I’ve heard of it. Never entered the news media at all here, and for fuck’s sake let’s hope it never gets mentioned in any news report ever anywhere. What a total waste of news space regarding a true hero. I have thought time and time again whether or not I would have the balls to rush those terrorists; I’d like to think I would, but I hope to hell I never have that as an option.

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Not sure how reliable this site is, but apparently Fred Phelps had something to say about AA pilot David Charlebois (who was also gay) – and all the passengers aboard on September 11.

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I don’t think you should worry about Mark Bingham’s memory not being lauded: Here’s a good link to his memorial service at his alma mater Berkeley, attended by John McCain, interesting anectdote there.

He was a stalwart rugby player there, and is remembered well in that community. Thanks for this thread, though, it has helped me remember a brave man who stood up to do the best he could in the worst of circumstances. And, peace and good prayers especially to his mother, who must be so heartsick at this anniversary time.

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Fred Phelps had said something not very nice about a gay guy?

Gee, I kind of stop listening to Reverend Phelps a long time ago.

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The most interesting bit is that not only did the gay pilot of flight 77 go to hell, so did all his passengers (again, according to the link). Because they, erm, bought tickets on a flight with a gay pilot?

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Not really. It’s because they live in America, and America isn’t doing enough gay stomping.

We all deserve death. Really.