Something you always wanted to try, and were sorely disappointed with when you finally did

The JitB website is so incompetent it can’t tell you where their locations are.

It only understands city name & right nearby. I entered “Florida” (where I doubt there are any) and it listed every city in the USA with “Florida” as part of the city name. I entered “California”, where I know there are some stores. It listed every city in the USA with “California” as part of the city name.

If there’s not one local the answer is a blank map of the USA. I guess there aren’t any anywhere.

Morons.

Yeah, I saw it as part of a trip to visit some friends who live in Rapid City, and it was great as far as it went.

But had I made that trip just to see it? I’d have been seriously annoyed. It’s pretty much what it looks like in the pictures- the coolest thing was Borglum’s studio/museum- they had scale mockups of the full design, which was quite a bit more ambitious than what was actually sculpted.

There’s an “old” viewing area that’s a lot better than the ‘main’ one that’s got all the flags and patriotic nonsense.

This is a good one. I’ve know a few people to whom taking a cross-country train trip sounds great—until I tell them what to expect. Some react with “Wow! Sign me up!” while others react with, “Uh, no thanks.”

I’m a veteran of long-distance train travel, having crossed most of Canada on a train, a few times. The first time was when I was about 5 years old; the most recent was about 20 years ago. And I have to say that long distance train travel is not for everyone.

It is unlike air travel in that, instead of spending a few hours with strangers, you’re spending a few days with strangers. Yes, just as on an aircraft, you can get on and spend the next few hours buried in movies on your tablet, computer, or phone, ignoring everybody else. That’s fine on a plane, when the experience will be over in a few hours. But on a train trip measured in days, then at some point, you’re going to have to come out from behind that device and interact with strangers. It might be at mealtimes, it might be just passing others in the corridor. But you will be interacting with others, like it or not.

I’ve told those who have asked me about it, to be prepared to interact with strangers. That’s actually the best part of the trip in my opinion; chatting with others over meals in the dining car, having a drink in the lounge car and chatting with the people there. Maybe there’s some kind of social event going on—a wine tasting in the lounge perhaps, or a game of some sort. I’ve made a few friends on trains.

Either way, I can see where long distance trains would not appeal to some. That’s fine, but know what you’re getting into when you book your trip. It is most assuredly nothing like air travel, and if you think it will be similar, just slower, you’ll be disappointed.

To best see Mount Rushmore you should drive the Iron Mountain Road, starting at Custer State Park (which rivals some national parks), from south to north. There are a series of one-lane tunnels that frame Mount Rushmore as you get closer and closer. It must have been a lot of work to move Mount Rushmore so that it so perfectly aligns with those tunnels. :wink:

But yeah, Crazy Horse is kind of a ripoff, especially if you’ve already seen it sometime in the last several decades. At one time there was a plan to create an Indian college there, but I don’t think anything came of it.

Disney Land

I finally went in my thirties. It was much smaller than I expected. The weather was cold and it was drizzling.

Disney Land is more appealing for families with young kids.

Disney World was completely opposite. I was 14 and with my parents. It’s very large. My strongest memory is a large room with trained birds.

I grew up near Disneyland and attended regularly as a kid through HS & once or twice in college.

Visited Disney World a couple times as a young adult. I haven’t been back to either since.

IMO / IIRC …

D-Land is compact and loaded with fun stuff all conveniently nearby everything else. The weather, like most of SoCal, is great except for the very occasional day it’s drizzly or rainy.

D-World is huge, spread out, difficult to walk around. Orlando’s weather is the suckiest in all of Florida; either gray, cold, and windy, or searing hot and humid with no breeze. Or thunderstorming. And bugs; tons and tons of bugs.

Both locations are more aimed at children; I really don’t see the attraction for any childfree adult.

Thanks. That’s a much better explanation then “the belt got sucked into the engine”. I wouldn’t have believed that it can happen but there are plenty of online reports about it.

Us older folks love it also.

WDW is huge, and that was likely the Enchanted Tiki Room, with audio-animatronic birds. But there was or is a live Bird show in Animal Kingdom. Weathyer can be terrible.

The Enchanted Tiki Room sounds familar.

Isn’t that around the time Clapton was deep into his heroin addiction? My understanding is that his backup guitarist George Terry was doing a lot of the heavy lifting in those days, and Clapton was pretty much going through the motions. So yeah, I can imagine it was disappointing.

Shrimp & grits

Huh? I just looked and it asked for my zipcode or city name. I know there are none around here so I entered “Pasadena” and selected Pasadena, CA and tons in that area showed up on the map.

Not sure why you’d put in “Florida” when it asks for city name…

Back in the early to mid 70s - and I don’t even recall if “fantasy” existed yet as a genre in the book stores (WH Smith back in my day) - a buddy of mine and I first saw Sword… and were convinced that it was just a big rip-off/scam.

I never actually read it so I honestly don’t know if our opinions were fair or accurate.

My goal was to figure out the national range of their stores. West Coast only? Northeast yes, but southeast no? Is there one somewhere along my next multi-state road trip I might stop at as an experiment? Etc.?

For most modern supra-regional or national chain websites a geographic search can take a freeform input like a state name and produce a result from that. True, the text box label usually says something like “city & state or zipcode”. But most are actually more flexible than that. They also generally have a “within [XX] miles” input box or drop down. Not these folks.

Clearly their attitude was “Given somebody in some a specific zip code, all that person cares about that we care about too, is whether there’s a store within a handful of miles. Other that, we don’t care if we blow them off; we’re not sellin’ them a taco anyhow.”

So despite the national map, it’s not a national search feature. It’s an immediate zip code or maaybe county-level search feature. Yes, it accepts inputs of every zip code in the country. But only does something useful in those which have Jack in the Boxes in it.

A geographic search in an area where they aren’t is an honest metric of local interest. Maybe they could crowdsource where to expand to next? But not if they’re not cooperating with people trying to find them.

Makes sense.

It was definitely a “thing. Tolkien came out in paperback in the 1960s (first the Ace “bootleg” editioin, then the Ballantine “authorized” edition) and Ace also published John Myers Myers’ Silverlock, Lancer published Robert E. Howard’s “Conan” series and other stuff, followed by Dell and CEntaur press publishing more Howard. Ace books also republished a lot of 19th- and early 20th-century SF and Fantasy

Then around 1970 Lin Carter started editing Ballantine’s “Adult Fantasy” line, with republication of things like Clark Ashton Smith and other works. Heck, the early- to -mid-1970s was prime time for paperback fantasy.

I read the Hobbit and LOTR at a very early age and loved them (I started in 5th grade). I was hungry for more so when I switched to Sword of Shannara I loved it. I was too young to discern “rip off”. I’ve reread LOTR but never Sword and never felt the desire. I moved onto other series like WoT and science fiction (Dune and others). So, from a very young readers perspective it was awesome.

I found this on their website. A list of all of their locations by state:

And as expected, no locations anywhere in the northeast. So I’ll have to wait to get my JitB taco fix for when I go back to Texas to visit my extended family.

P.S. There was a short time about 20 years ago when Burger King had tacos on their menu that were all but indistinguishable from JitB tacos. They were only on the menu for a short time, but they even had them here in Connecticut.

Interesting.

Because if you go to their home page Jack in the Box and click the link at the top that says “Location” or the link at the bottom that says “Find a Location” you get here Find a Location | Jack in the Box which is the search feature I was using and is completely different.

There’s no link on the home page that takes you to the page you found. And from your page, clicking the menu or home page links takes you where you’d expect, never to be able to return to your location page.

Like I said earlier … idjits.

But thank you. Your cite to that site page actually totally fills my mission. It’s clear they’re predominantly a Pacific and Mountain time zone regional operator with a few outposts in a smattering of central and southeastern states. And no presence in the northeast.

4 sex in the mall

Lots of nosy people, especially women 50+ and their crazy talk of calling the cops if you don’t stop RIGHT NOW.

/JK