Sorry ladies, you can't hang with the SEALS

Or he should at least wait until he’s sober.

I’ll take that bet.

If I’m not mistaken, then Israel is not deploying women in combat roles. Anyway, if they can piss standing and go the distance without rubberstamping the requirements then the girls can come and play. I just don’t think you’d ever find a woman that can measure up physically to the top 0.1% men, so it’s an empty gesture.

If the Seals have a dropout rate currently of 90%, and assuming that those that get admitted are already in the top, what, 15% amongst of the army, who would be in the top 25% of men - I’d have to say that the a woman who could make it through would be vanishingly rare - and that once you open the door there would be a temptation to make it possible for a woman to finish.

That’s a pretty bad assumption.

Allow me to introduce Irene, Yolanda, Lisa, Ana, Rosemary, Julietteand Christine

From what I’ve read, SEAL training officers and top brass have no doubt at all that there are female soldiers who will meet the current requirements and pass training, as-is.

Their concern is more about the culture of the existing male soldiers and an HR type nightmare for females forced to work in close quarters with them, and fraternization/harrassment/rape which are already problems for female soldiers throughout the armed forces. They are thinking about forming all-female SEAL squadrons to try to deal with these more realistic obstacles that female applicants would be facing.

And that particular one out of one hundred women passed the same requirements that my ex-asshole of a SEAL BF, then I have no problem with her becoming a SEAL. What part of SHE PASSED THE SAME QUALIFIERS THAT JOE SCHMUCK DID TO BECOME A SEAL did you misunderstand?

Look at the crop of female triatheletes, I am certain that one of them might be more than able to pass.

Most women may not as a rule have the brute force upper body strength of men, but that’s not all that’s required. Stamina, reflexes, and internal grit are not gender specific, and in these women can be just as tough - if not tougher - than men. Not ALL women, obviously. But then again I know an awful lot of soft, gentle, uncoordinated men too who aren’t even remotely SEAL material.

Methinks someone’s pretty threatened by tough chicks.

Klaatu is our resident “oh this must be some driveby newbie just posting to the board for the first… WAIT WHAT… 1999!!!” poster on the boards.

Every single one of his threads follows this rule. His greatest I think was that Romney was going to win in a LANDSLIDE, with the like 400+ EV or something.

revolutionary idea incoming.

Do the following in the following order

a) Set the physical and mental criteria required for the job
b) Measure people against said criteria
c) Select those that pass

My guess was that this was a zombie because no one could be so reflexively occupationally sexist these days right?

I would guess that the dumbass is the one who just admitted to trolling.

And as a corollary to principle (a), writing one’s name in the snow with pee isn’t a valid requirement for the job.

Dammit. What am I going to do with this Foley catheter now? :smiley:

They should make a movie about this thread. It could star Demi Moore.

Since my cursory skimming of the thread has not turned up any reference to this, let me bring up that women are physically different from men – they are (statistically) worse at some things and better at others.

I suppose the OP’s argument is that SEAL combat includes more of the things women are statistically worse at, and fewer of the things they’re better at. I’m not convinced, especially considering the repeated references to grueling tests of endurance. Women are (statistically) better at long endurance events than men, because of the way they process stored energy or something like that, if I properly remember the biomedical folderol. They are (statistically) worse at upper-body strength. So I guess it depends on the proportion of heavy lifting to long-distance patrolling one expects take place in SEAL deployments. Women tend to be smaller, physically, which would be advantageous in remaining hidden and (to a very slight degree) not getting shot, if hiding and being shot at occur on SEAL deployments.

I dunno, it seems like the OP’s insightful analysis was irrefutable in 1066. But the rise of missile combat and the decline of muscle-powered weapons seem to have cast the issue into doubt somewhere around the invention of the matchlock arquebus.

But just think how much we’ll save on body armor! Female Armor Sucks - YouTube

The OP seems to have taken his medication now, so maybe we won’t have to hear from him again.

That will never catch on.

Its the getting to the position to where you have to pull the trigger that is the tricky part.

insert joke about men refusing to ask for directions here