I didn’t see it so much as “Sony won’t or doesn’t want to make another movie with Disney” but rather “Sony wanted the ability to soft reboot in case they and Disney had another spat, both to make another solo film easier and to have the leverage of an easier solo film”. If they make another MCU film then, hey, easy enough to write in “How Parker Got MJ Back”. If they didn’t, you just go right into the next film not worrying about them any more because that chapter is over.
Also, all this was being written and filmed before the mediocre Venom and awful Morbius returns.
I am just wondering if they will do two sequels----Disney doing one with MCU Tom Holland Spiderman and Sony doing one with either the Maguire or Garfield Spiderman in their original universes.
Or even introducing a fourth Spiderman in the Venom Universe
That being said I must say this film has a high level of continuity lockout for new fans. To truly appreciate it you would have to have seen three different Spider-Man franchises(the Maguire, Garfield, and Holland versions respectively.) It really does NOT work as a standalone film.
I would agree. It’s a good movie, but the other two work better if you have not seen the old spider-man movies. I went and saw both Andrew Garfield ones based on the rumors he would be in this.
When he took his mask off, I clapped like a big idiot in the theater. When Tobey came through, my theater cheered and one dude yelled, “OH MY GOD IT’S TOBEY” and we all roared.
I disagree. My family just watched the movie last night. The only previous Spider-Man movie the kids have watched is Spider-Verse. I’ve also watched the first Tobey Maquire one. No others.
And we loved the movie. Sure we didn’t get all the references, but as a stand-alone movie, it has great action, great acting, and a plot. The plot is the weak point, but the action and acting carry it.
Willem DaFoe was excellent. I could tell when he switched, but was hiding it. The scooby-doo gang was great, with the teenage awkwardness. Felt like a typical high-school movie. Aunt May was perfect. The multiple Spider-Mans interactions were clever and fun.
Finally watched the movie (having managed to stay unspoiled, too). Early in the movie, we hear J Jonah switching topics from Spider Man to “How do you feel about the Statue of Liberty getting Captain America’s Shield?” I think that was meant to be enough of an intro to the idea that the audience wouldn’t be confused by the end. I figured the scaffolding was needed for the Shield install.
Sony refused a Chinese demand to remove the Statue of Liberty from the Chinese cut of the movie, or even diminish the statue’s presence, and therefore decided not to release the film in China (or perhaps China blocked release of the film).
Um, 20 minutes of the film, the final confrontation between the Spider-Men and the bad guys takes place on the Statue of Liberty. How would they have accomplished that, exactly?
A different article I saw on the topic said that there hasn’t been an Marvel movie released in China since 2019 so this wasn’t anything too new, although the “China wanted to block the Statue of Liberty” angle has legs for other, obvious, reasons.
I finally saw the movie, which means I saw it after the Dr. Strange fiasco. (Can Benedict Cumberbatch sue Disney for defamation of his character?) It was miles better in every way, even to the special effects.
Sure, the plot holes and contrivances are piled a mile high, but the audience isn’t supposed to think about them until after.
Yet, here’s one that bothered me during the movie. Nobody here mentioned it at all, so I may be alone. And I didn’t see the previous two movies so it might be a carryover. However. MJ does nothing essential in the entire movie. Not a thing. Ned at least makes portals when he’s not being comic relief. MJ is supposed to be intelligent and capable and brave and all the Girl Scout qualities, and still has no role except to stand around; well, sometimes to get in the way like women do in Hollywood movies. She’s the headliner of a movie with all of two female characters and she is not given a single scene to become anything more than a love interest.
Has no one protested this treatment of her? Was she this useless in the previous movies? Even the comic book MJ was given more active bits, at least after the first 30 or 40 years.
Am I missing something, or is this just MJ being MJ?
I’m not a dyed-in-the-wool MCU type. But I liked the first two Spider-Man movies with Tobey Maguire. They were what I look for in comic superhero movies–superpower fantasy but gritty real-world people. I was captivated by Daredevil and Jessica Jones on Netflix.
Now, those movies go back to 2004 and I haven’t kept up with what’s happened in the newer ones. But things have changed.
I saw that the reviews of this latest were good though I didn’t read the details. I watched No Way Home on streaming last night and gave up after 45 minutes. It struck me as being High School Musical with flattened Spider-Man/Peter Parker and Dr. Strange characters. It felt like a live-action cartoon. Instead of building drama, everything was played for laughs. It came off to me as a young teenager’s movie, which doesn’t make it a bad movie, but so clashed with my expectations that I just abandoned it. (I have to say I enjoyed seeing Charlie Cox as Matt Murdock.)