Ya know, believe it or not I’m sort of siding with Mynn here - the mods have deleted lots of threads when the OP asked because they realized they were a bad idea.
I think a poster (who’s name I remember clearly, but won’t post) started an OP about punching out his neighbour and had it deleted when it was pointed out that it could be used as evidence.
I vaguely recall other posts (who’s names I don’t recall) having the same thing done for them by the administration.
Now SM makes a stupid post, and starts getting off-board harrasment for it, including death threats, asks the mods/admin to delete it because of this, and is told “No.” and is allowed to twist in the wind.
I think that’s pretty shitty, actually.
If a popular poster fucks up and posts crap that could get them in trouble, the admins delete it promtly. If a new, unpopular poster does the same, tough shit.
I actually think that’s pretty rotten, and a pretty shit way to run a business. Honestly, I like posting here, but sometimes this bullshit really picks my ass.
That translation helped a great deal, and now I think I understand what Mynn is unhappy about.
Now, the only thing I still don’t understand (besides why Mynn couldn’t express what made her unhappy clearly, so we didn’t have to spend four pages just trying to translate the OP into English) is why Mynn chose to post a cryptic message in the Pit about it. If I were unhappy about something like this, I might use the ‘report this post’ button to ask a mod to delete the thread in order to prevent future trainwrecks, explaining my reasons simply and politely.
I don’t think that Mynn’s current strategy will get her what she wants, and she would be wise to consider actions that would be more likely to succeed.
A gift basket? Editor/proofreader here: You’d have to fill that basket with Godiva by the pound, a jeroboam of Taittinger, a million-dollar winning lottery ticket, and Viggo Mortensen before I’d touch her stuff. :eek:
alice, I was remembering that specific thread when I posted. I believe, but can’t say for 100%, that it was lieu as the puncher.
There was a BIG difference. The other poster committed a criminal (but, IMO, justified) act AND charges were being pressed against him. The other poster made statements in that thread that were discoverable. The thread was “disappeared” (not deleted, as that too can be an offense) to prevent further statements.
Here, someone went to Spongemom’s board and made threats (or so I’m led to believe). This is potentially actionable but, to the best of my knowledge, no action has yet been taken. Thus, no need to delete.
In The Great Board Darkness Saga, I don’t know if we’ll ever find out what truly happened behind the scenes. We just know that, for better or for worse, the threads were disappeared and TubaDiva got her hand slapped, but not hard enough for many posters tastes.
This is the thread that I’m talking about - but, regardless of the details, the thread was posted, and it soon became obvious that it was a REALLY BAD IDEA for OFF BOARD REASONS. The police involved in the other case weren’t board members, nor was the alegedly assaulted party (I believe that this case was settled in the OPs favor, but just in case I don’t want to post anything specific). However, because of the potential for OFF BOARD nastyness, the admin’s “removed” the thread from public view.
IMHO, SM’s thread could be “removed” for the same reason - it was a bad idea to post it, and now she’s involved in off board nastyness because of it.
It seems like a double standard to me, and I don’t like it.
That’s what Dave said before Sergeant Laura straightened him out. It outlasted the entire chorus and I’m pretty sure Steve’s guinea pig will never be the same.
I see a big difference between a post describing an illegal act that has already been committed, and a post that may have indirectly caused someone somewhere else to commit an illegal act. It’s not the SDMB’s fault that someone read what SM wrote her and followed her somewhere else to harrass her, nor is it their responsibility to prevent it from happening again. If I shoot my mouth off in a bar, and some guy follows me home and kicks my ass for it, it’s not the bar’s fault I got my ass kicked, and I don’t have any standing to demand the bar do a damned thing to protect me from myself in the future.
We also have no evidence that this harrassment actually occured other than SM’s say so. I’m not saying she’s lying, but I am saying I don’t think we want to set a precedent for letting people who have screwed up here off the hook by claiming that “someone” from here has been harrassing them off board.
Miller - lieu’s post is not the only one I remember being removed. I recall someone posting their IRL phone number and it was removed. Someone else asked for some sort of legal advice where no charges were currently pending and it was removed, etc. Obviously I can’t link to these because they’ve been removed, however, I’ve been here for quite a long time - there have been ill advised threads removed in the past at the OPs request, even if there weren’t any specific charges or whatever.
It’s like the winter of our missed content - I KNOW that I read posts by certain posters (who shall remain nameless) that were lost and those posters went on to deny ever making them, and there’s nothing to prove my memory because the threads and comments are gone.
However, if you get drunk and post a sign in the bar saying “Fuck you. Yes, you, the person reading this sign.” with your address scrawled on the back, you have the right to sober up and take the sign down when someone comes by and writes “Fuck you too” on your driveway in urine. In fact, the bar would probably want you to. N’est-ce pas?
The link was immediately deleated in the thread by Giraffe. However SM (funny we have started to abreviate it this way it reminds me of Stagemanager) left the link in her profile with a invitation to visit the site.
Actually, I don’t think you do have that right. The bar would probably let you do it anyway, but you don’t have the right to demand they take it down, and I don’t think they’re under any legal obligation to do so.
alice: were any of the removed posts the center of a controversy on the dope when the poster asked them to be removed?
Mynn’s writing reminds me of the martian translator in Mars Attacks!
All green of skin… 800 centuries ago, their bodily fluids include the birth of half-breeds. For the fundamental truth self-determination of the cosmos, for dark is the suede that mows like a harvest.
The link isn’t in her SDMB profile any longer. Reading her trainwreck, I see references to a link to her forum being in her sig but there are no sigs in any of her posts – removed by the mods? Another Doper posted a link to her profile on the other site but it was removed by Giraffe quickly, with an admonition not to do that again.
So, Mynn, any previous attempts at harassment of Spongemom were facilitated by her own provision of links, which she and the mods have since removed. If you’d never dragged this mess back into the light of day Spongemom could have quietly blended back into the tamer forums here. In a little while pretty much everybody would have forgotten about it. Instead you’ve turned a blowtorch on dying embers. Some friend you are.
