Sports and Masculinity (or lack of it!)

Hate sports. Am gay.

Of course, now they’ll practically revoke your gay pass if you’re not at the gym four days a week… that was not in the brochure! :mad:

Col. Cooper was (obviously) not trying to make a general & absolute statement. He was noting a trend, and I happen to agree with him. In the past, most people use to do things; they would farm land, build stuff, dance, play games, socialize, etc. But it seems technology has changed a lot of that, in that so many people today spend their evenings sitting in front of the TV, playing video games, or playing on the computer.

well, see. . .i’m reluctant to trust a statement like this. Maybe that’s what his mom told him, because it was the only thing she could really articulate. Maybe it came out of a heartfelt conversation where he told her he was gay and she said, “i think I always knew it” and he said, “how” and that’s all she could come up with.

What’s she going to say, “because of the way you pranced around the living room and enjoyed setting the table”?

I think it’s similar with the sports thing. . .some guys you just kind of “know” are gay. If someone asks for a reason, you might say, “well he was never into sports”, but it was probably a lot more than that.

There are WAY too many guys in high school that aren’t into sports to think that that’s enough to make them gay. That would have made 60% of the graduating class gay.

I think there’s a straw man here. If a guy shows none of the other behaviors that one might associated with being gay (relying entirely on stereotypes – but that’s what this thread is about) then people aren’t going the think he’s gay just because he isn’t into sports.

If you know a guy who isn’t into sports but has sex with a lot of women, has a big beer gut, eats fritos, hates theater, and who can’t remember if Bruno Magli was the name of the guy driving the Bronco or the name of OJ’s shoes, no one will think he’s gay.

If you know a guy who is into sports, but dates men, sings show tunes, cuts hair, and subscribes to “mens fitness” you might think he’s gay.

If you know a guy who isn’t into sports, but also dresses well, stays thin, has a mysterious dating life, keeps an eye on the arts. . .well, you know, it’s just one factor.

That’s all presuming you go around trying to figure out if people are gay at all. . .something I hope no one spends much time on.

Of coure, the very same thing can be said for any number of geeks who can reel off pages of dialogue from Monty Python movies, anime, comic books, and Star Trek.

Well, at the least with video games & spending time on forums like this one, you are actually doing something, that requires thought and effort. TV watching is much more passive. When I see millions of people wasting so much time, energy & money on something as ultimatly pointless as sitting around watching as professional sports, it makes me think that sports are little more than one half of the modern version of the old Roman “Bread & Circuses” to keep people pacified.

You certainly don’t. I have a problem with people who attack non-sports-fans. There’s no need!

One can do both. Without insulting sports-watchers!:slight_smile:

I like this reason best! Watching a game with someone who is entirely too into it is sheer torture.

It does! It does! I swear!

Sometimes.

Sorry, but typing or twiddling my fingers playing a video game is not my idea of “doing something.” True, lots of guys sit on the couch and watch football for hours during the season, all the while eating snacks and drinking cold beer, but they’re not “doing something” either. Both passtimes are equally as passive in my book.

Actually, yes I do—at least toward the ones that don’t particularly interest me. You do realize, don’t you, that my defenses are all bogus after-the-fact rationalizations and not a priori reasons that caused me not to become a sports fan, don’t you? :slight_smile:

If you really mean watching, without also listening, sure! :slight_smile:

Oh yeah? Name one! In my experience, most theater nuts are participants at some level. But maybe you’re right. Lemme check the daily Theater section of the newspaper, or watch the theater report on tonight’s TV news, and get back to you. :wink:

Absolutely! Or at least, it sure helps. Although, at least movies don’t all have the exact same plot. :slight_smile:

I’m not sure how intrinsically worthwhile even the Olympics are; I think the importance is what we invest in it. Is it really intrinsically important whether some guy can run slightly faster than some other guy?

I’m just glad there are things in this world that I’m not interested in, because if I were interested in everything, where would I find time for it all?