Star Trek and Moby Dick (Yes more Star Trek Questions)

In the original Khan episode, Ricardo Montalban as Khan quoted Paradise Lost.

Yes, but did he quote “Fantasy Island”?

“De plane, de plane!!!”

LL

The last movie with the old cast quoted Peter Pan:
“Second star to the left, and ahead till morning.”

Star Trek 4 had Scottie saying “There be whales here.” I’m sure that is in Moby Dick somewhere.

jmullaney:

Actually, that’s, “Second star on the left, and straigh on 'till morning.”

::looking pensively at the KR glasses before putting them back on with relish::

Nope. He quoted his old Chrysler commercial. “Look what they’ve done to my Starship!”

Actually, if you’ll read Barrie, the line is “Second to the right, and straight on till morning.” It is always misquoted as "Second star to the left . . . ", and I’d really like to find out why.

Star Trek movies with quotes from Melville don’t suck!

I think it’s just the notion that a few Melville and Shakespeare quotes constitute literacy. hmmm…
You BF isn’t so strange, my GF wants to watch all the ST movies in a single day! Yikes. I suggested just the even numbered ones but she insists on all of them. We’re trying to work out the schedule so another couple can come over for dinner while one of the non-sucky ones is on.

Barrie is the Peter Pan author? That would be odd – so Star Trek definitely says left? Did you read the whole book because there may be directions on how to get into versus out of never-never-land.

Wasn’t there a Moby Dick reference in the original series?
I’m not sure but I think it was the one where they were trying to destroy a planet-killer that looked like a giant
horn?

I think that is the doomsday machine episode mentioned earlier. I found a link of the timeline of the Star Trek universe (quite by accident while looking for something else) which says they were built to fight the borg. Which I didn’t know so I guess I’m not a geek after all!

Er, except I know that now too. Oh 'eck!

This site – http://www.hoboes.com/html/FireBlade/Peter/chapter4.html – is Chapter 4, after the Darling children learn to fly and are on their way to Neverland.

But it wasn’t just ST that quotes it wrong. I heard in quoted like that on The Six Million Dollar Man – yes, I was a TV science fiction geek – and Jeopardy, of all places.

The script I have indicates that the line is “Second star to the right, and straight on 'till morning,” as in the Barrie original. Now I feel as though I’ll have to check the tape.

LL

No, I’m certain I heard it in the original series as well. Kirk was waxing poetic, to either Spock, or more likely McCoy. He follows the above lines with how you could feel the wind at your back, or some such. I want to say that this was in the episode “The Ultimate Computer”, after M-5 makes him feel obsolete (“Regards to Captain Dunsel”). It also could have been in “The Naked Time” when Kirk is getting emotional under the influence of the virus.

Regardless, it WAS in the original series. I’m certain of it.

Also:

“Once more onto the breach, dear friends”

“the game is afoot”

“I am constant as the Northern Star”

“Prick us, do we not bleed?
Tickle us, do we not laugh?
Wrong us, shall we not revenge?” (Chang omits “Poison us, do we not die” which should be right before “wrong us”)

As has been previously discussed, Shakespeare is also quoted when the Klingons dine with the Enterprise crew. Also, when the Klingons are about to transport to their ship: “We have heard the chimes at midnight” is right out of Shakespeare.

This is correct: the planet killer episode is “The Doomsday Machine” episode mentioned earlier. William Windon makes a great, emotionally unbalanced Ahab, by the way:

“There IS no third planet!”

“Don’t you think I know that? There was, but not any more! They called me, they begged me for help! Four hundred of them! But I couldn’t! I simply couldn’t!”

However, I will say that the thing looked more like a giant turd than a giant horn. At least to me.

We’re working on a Star Trek Marathon here in Jackson, just like the one you’re suggesting. :slight_smile: Going to try for 1-9.

“It is better to rule in hell than to serve in Heaven.”

I believe that this is the quote.