FFS. It’s a TV show, whose prime reason for existence is to bring in advertising dollars.
Sit back and enjoy it.
Or not. I just don’t get all the nitpicking.
(spiitake) It’s STAR TREK
I get the entertainment answer. That’s how i felt about Abrams Trek, the first two movies. I was entertained. I was also aghast at some stuff.
I’m nitpicking cause i don’t understand why they made some of their decisions. And frankly this is LESS Trekky than Gold Key Star Trek Comics.
But yeah…i thought it was entertaining, and the long preview was entertaining.
Ooh! Lt. ChickenMeat! I like it! Or maybe, Lt. TastesLikeChicken?
/Almost makes me want to watch the show so I can have fun with snide nicknames.
Wow, I knew it had a mixed reaction but I’m taken aback somewhat at how the vast majority here responded negatively (to put it mildly in some cases). Guess I’m in the minority who enjoyed it. The only thing that worries me is I was starting to enjoy the 3 main characters and the chemistry they had (sound familiar) only for them to get split up by the end. I hope the success can be repeated by the actual Discovery crew.
In the UK it aired on Netflix which I already have and which seems forward thinking. But I can see it being annoying (and extremely boneheaded) to have it exclusive to CBS All Access over there. Seriously that could topple the show - no one wants to pay a full subscription just for one show that they aren’t sure about. What the hell were they thinking?! The networks really need to stop with this.
Definitely got a North Korea vibe from the “do we shoot first then?” with a dash of racism from Burnham born from fear after her parents were killed in a terrorist attack. It’s addressing contemporary issues, as always, without completely shoving it down your throat as you could easily debate the allegories.
I love the “Vila from Blake’s 7” character (the prey guy). Just basically spending the whole time saying “you know, I think we should just like… not put ourselves in danger… ever…” and the intelligent farm life concept is neat. I look forward to seeing what the show does with him.
What’s he deal with “Michael”? Maybe I’ve been hanging around with Millennials too long but my instinct was to try and catch a pronoun that I’m supposed to refer to the character by.
The Blingons… eh whatever. The design change can be handwaved any number of ways. But I hope we get to hear things through the universal translator more.
Very early days yet - this was just really a prologue.
I feel pretty much the same. I didn’t like the reboot movies much honestly - they were okay in their own right as general action movies but didn’t feel very true to Trek to me… but this did. Maybe partly because I enjoyed DS9 so much and that had already kind of expanded the idea of what Trek “should be” to include darker, more realistic elements alongside the traditional utopian stuff.
Star Trek has always been bad if you overanalyse it. This goes for a lot of things - Doctor Who as well for example. It’s best not to look for nits to pick at and try to enjoy the entertainment they’re trying to achieve.
I, too, enjoyed the pilot, and found it entertaining. Just not enough to pay for CBS’ streaming service.
In the interest of full disclosure, however, it should be noted that I am not a Star Trek fan, so my opinion of the show is not influenced by its comparison to previous incarnations of that franchise. And, as I mentioned in a previous thread, I am also not the nit-picky type, when it comes to movies and television.
How so?
Vulcans are exceptionally pragmatic and they are not complete peaceniks.
For my part I enjoyed the show. I have some quibbles but nothing too big.
I won’t pay for CBS subscription just to see it though.
During the time of this show, actually, they were. If you recall how Spock behaves and advises in the original series, Vulcans are seriously pre-disposed to seek peaceful solutions. On a few occasions, Kirk has to reject advice from Spock on the basis that he’s not going to discount use of violence to solve a problem. The idea that the Vulcans of the TOS time-frame would simply fire at Klingons on sight is quite inconsistent with prior Star Trek canon.
Remember “Balance of Terror”?
The only difference here is that Spock potentially has a unique insight in to the origins of the Romulan culture. Otherwise, both men (Spock/TOS v. Sarek/ST Discovery) are talking about dealing with a culture known to have pronounced warrior/honor ethos.
IMO, the idea that the Federation (or Star Fleet) will never fire first “feels” more like a Next Generation sentiment (after a period of almost a centuy of peaceful exploration under their belt) than a TOS sentiment.
Are you planning on popping in on all the other threads critiquing movies and television shows to say the same thing? If so, might I suggest that save yourself some time and effort by making the post your signature?
The other difference is that Spock didn’t run into the room half-naked, shouting “Shoot them! Shoot them!”
So what do y’all think. Should I ask a Mod to rename this to be a season one thread or you think we can support episode by episode threads?
Well, that role was being performed by Stiles. 
I thought it was alright, worth seeing a few more episodes to see how it goes (although I wouldn’t pay for it). It avoided the misstep that basically ruined 80% of Star Trek since (and including) TNG - it told a real story instead of creating a technobabble problem to be solved by a technobabble solution. Most episodes of TNG/VOY and about half of DS9 were literally that. They would actually write the scripts like that. The scripts would have “[technobabble]” in them that would later be filled out by a dedicated technobabble writer. So most Trek episodes didn’t even tell a story as we’d identify from a normal story structure - they were just “oh no, the blurgaphon teledar array will explode in 2 hours and we’re trapped” solved by “reverse the durgadurga emitter grid and we’re saved!” - what the fuck kind of garbage non-story is that?
So I’m willing to give it a try simply based on the possibility that it’s not technobabble glurge trek and may actually tell a story. It probably won’t end up being good, but this is sort of a backstory/tablesetting pilot and we haven’t really even seen the main show yet, with the new crew and the new ship and the new mission.
Ugly klingons were weird. Is it maybe easier because it’s more of a prosthetic/mask rather than complex makeup?
Also, the captain and first officer beaming aboard the klingon vessel as a raiding party was egregiously ridiculous. There are no soldiers or security on the ship? At least take along a few red shirts, that’s what they’re for. That part inexcusably silly.
Yeah, those stupid “modesty strips” that real hospitals always take the time to wrap around critical patients in emergency situations.
She should have ran into the room completely naked shouting “Shoot them! Shoot them!”.
I’m in the UK, so have watched the two episodes as part of my Netflix subscription. No commercials.
There is the option to switch on subtitles/closed captioning in English… or Klingon.
Which is simultaneously ridiculous and freaking awesome.
The other difference is that the Romulans attacked first and the Enterprise needed to hit them back hard.
In STD, Micheal wanted to fire first
I’m with you and actually looking forward to more.
However, I wonder how my very conservative and religious brother is going to react once he finds out that there is a gay couple on the show.
Of course. This is mandatory now, isn’t it? :rolleyes:
I watched it last night and was thoroughly underwhelmed.
I thought the admiral in the hologram looked familiar. An hour later, I was watching Designated Survivor. I’m pretty sure he was the same guy who plays the Head of the Grand Conspiracy to Topple the American Government.
Same here! I thought the VFX were amazing, and the story and dialogue was much better than I expected (although on the whole, I’m probably still digging *The Orville *slightly more). My biggest complaint was that on “After Trek”, the host read Twitter comments off of physical cards that he struggled to get turned right side up. What? He can’t just have a tablet in front of him or something?
Oh, there are definitely nits you can pick. One is something that has always bugged me on these kinds of shows: how long a process it is to respond when the enemy starts firing at the good guys. Do they really have to wait for the captain to say “take evasive action” to, you know, take evasive action?