I am a part time trekkie, and have recently came out of the closet with my Star Trek viewing habits to my girlfriend. As a result I am not up to speed with Star Trek Voyager. My question relates to a recent episode I saw.
In the episode the ship flies into the <insert techno babble here> and is cloned. There are 2 voyagers except only one will have the antimatter from the warp core and only one voyager will survive. At the end of the episode the ship is attacked bye the Middians (sp?). Anyways these villians seemed intent on ripping organs out of the voyager crew and using them for themselves. When did these villians appear and what is their story?
They appeared early on in the first season. They are infected with a virulent, incurable “phage” which causes multiple organ failure. Although their medical technology is very advanced (more advanced than the Federation’s), they are unable to cure the phage. Their only hope for survival is to steal healthy organs from other species and transplant the organs into themselves.
Note, the Phage was cured, although the Vidians (I beleive that’s what they’re actually called) had long since stopped appearing in the series by this time, and reference to the Phage’s cure was simply an offhand remark made by one of the members of the think-tank who developed the cure in order to convince Janeway of their problem-solving ability.
If the Vidiians were from the first season, and the episode Joe_x saw is from this season (I assume this is what he means by “recent”), and in between, they got through Borg space, how is it they are still running into anyone from the other side of Borg space?
It’s from more than 2 seasons ago. If I recall correctly, that’s the one in which the little girl was born (she was born on the “twin” ship and rushed to the one that survived because on the surviving ship, the baby didn’t – got that?). And she’s been around for a number of seasons now. I’m thinking it was waaay back there.
Is this also the episode that Harry Kim dies in and is replaced by the Harry Kim that got created when Voyager was split . Of are there 2 episodes where Voyager splits ?
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Ya know, that always bugged me. Why does alt-Harry get to live and no one else? Just because there’s a slot open for him? And no one seemed to care that the alt-Harry they were dealing with wasn’t the same person who’d been with them for the last several years.
The Vidiians were featured during the first season, before Voyager crossed Borg space.
When my UPN station started showing Voyager reruns, they first ran the “best” of Voyager, entirely out of sequence. After a couple/few months, they started running the episodes in sequence.
By the standards of “good” SF, Voyager does indeed bite the big one. In all the trek series, the writers seem to allow themselves quite a lot of dramatic license. By the “Trek” standard, it’s arguable that Voyager is the best series since TOS. But that’s a discussion for GD.
Ok, I’d forgotten that Naomi Wildman was born that episode, so, of course, you were right that it was more than 2 seasons ago. Checking http://www.startrek.com it was the season 2 (we’re in 6) episode Deadlock.
Voyager is in its 6th season!!! Gee don’t I feel old. 6th!!!
Anyways I take it they have crossed Borg space and that is why I don’t see the borg anymore? I was wondering that. Like I said I am just now starting to watch Star Trek again.
Joe: We do see the Borg, still. In fact, unless something’s changed in the past couple episodes (which I may or may not have missed, depending on if they were reruns – oh, ****, I just realized I forgot to set the VCR again yesterday!), they are carrying around some previously-Borg children that they picked up a few episodes before that.
Otto said:
Yup. Everybody else “lived” anyway, in the other ship. Besides, somebody needed to carry Naomi Wildman to the other ship.
That’s because it was the same Harry. The split happened a very short time before the alt-ship blew up (or whatever happened – I don’t fully recall). So that Harry really is the same Harry, give or take a few hours.
Those few hours make the difference. They were two separate people, individual and complete unto themselves. it’s not the same guy, alt-Harry knows he’s not the same guy.
Maybe you are thinking of the “Demon Voyager” made of the silvery stuff from the Class Y (?) planet. Harry was the last one to decompose in that episode…
My curiosity is this… when Voyager splits (or when someone’s cloned in a transporter accident, or something like that) where does the extra mass for the second ship/person/whatever come from? Especially in the vacuum of space. You’d need several hundred thousand cubic light-years of space to get the spare mass to create a new ship from scratch. In a transporter accident, I suppose it can be explained away because they always keep spare mass on hand for replicators, or something like that, but duplicating the whole ship? Isn’t that pushing the envelope a bit?
Nope. I’m thinking of the same episode that’s been under discussion here. “Real” Harry died in a battle as I recall and was replaced by alt-Harry, and no one’s ever said boo about it that we’ve seen. But speaking of the “silverblood” Voyager, was that the most depressing episode or what?
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