Luke said some of his students fled rather than join Ren & the Stimpys, so if nothing else it seems like it would be about time for them to reappear.
That’s what makes it compelling. Usually the knock back in the second act is just an annoying obstacle, but this time it’s been devastation. How do they rebuild and prevail after that? I’m excited to find out.
I was still excited for Star Wars after TFA. After TLJ all wind has been sucked out of me. Despite good character chemistry and all the old faces TLJ is a mess. I’m hoping they retcon it in episode IX.
I know, they literally asked Rian Johnson about Episdoe IX and he said something like, “Oh, I have no idea. I’m not involved in that movie at all. That’s JJ Abrams problem.”
I like VIII, but Johnson was almost trolling them by wrapping up so many storylines in the middle movie.
Is there anything in the official movie Star Wars canon that supports the idea that Luke is not truly dead? That Abrams (or whoever is writing the thing) can twist Luke’s “disappearing on the cliff” to reappearing in full flesh and blood for the next movie? Sort of how Gandalf the Grey transformed into Gandalf the White. And if this happens, how would fans react to it? With a groan since Obi-Wan disappeared in the same way? Or excitement as it reveals another aspect of the Force that was never fleshed out? (Maybe it could tie in somehow to Palpatine promising that he could teach Anakin how to bring back someone from the dead.)
Just wishful thinking on my part.
The only fake out with still being alive that would be credible to me is that TLJ is a vision Luke had about what would happen if he cut himself off from the force. Vision ends, TLJ never happened.
There is no force ghost psych out ability that I know of. But they had Yoda’s ghost display more power than I’ve ever seen.
No, they definitely wanted Luke.dead. I truly believe JJ knew about it and approved. I don’t think he knew what to do with Luke which is why he punted Luke to Johnson.
Star Wars is like your all-time favorite restaurant that changed its ownership, ambiance, and menu. You’ve gone back a few times with hope. Now its average at best and disappointing. At least we have the memories.
The trouble with a worldwide pop cultural phenomenon that you have loved since childhood and maintained a steady interest in throughout its expansion and development is that there are hundreds of ways to love it, and no two people will like it for the same reasons as you.
What Disney/Lucasfilm are making has almost all the elements I love, even though a few of them (superficial things mostly) are not to my taste. But the elements you love may not be present.
As long as they are making money and have stories to tell, they’ll keep making these movies their way. Solo arguably didn’t make as much money as they would’ve liked, but so far it’s the one anomaly, and even then it could be argued Rogue One was the anomaly by being more popular than they expected. Not to mention Solo’s troubled production is really the cause of its comparably low return by messing with the box office return ratio.
They don’t want to mess with the formula too much, but what is that formula? Ask any two Star Wars fans and you’ll get a different answer, maybe even a contradictory answer.
Nobody can make you like something you just don’t, but these declarations that it’s ruined and dead and is no longer worth watching is impulsive, reactionary, and ridiculous. The next “Star Wars Story” movie might be the best adventure yet! Episode IX might make everything in The Last Jedi work better, in the same way that The Clone Wars managed to improve what went wrong in the prequels.
They’re only four movies in. Not all of them are going to be hits. So far only Marvel has managed to be Marvel, and even they have had failures. Lower your stratospheric expectations.
That is the problem. 4 movies is a lot! All that’s left of the Star Wars we know is Chewie and the Millenium Falcon. That’s it. The rest was destroyed and replaced by uninteresting characters. Rey? She doesn’t even want to do Star Wars. Finn and Rose, a fish out of water romance. Kylo-Ren? Disney villain. Snoke? Killed off a movie too soon, and a bit of comic relief.
The problem started with TFA. Okay, crash land on a desert planet, hide the plans in the droids and blow up the death star…again. Recycled material with less charm and tension than the original Star Wars.
Rogue one was excellent, because it was true to Star Wars, used Darth Vader to great effect, and had a really good ending. The rest was a mess.
Why is MCU almost always very good and Star Wars average?
Lots of reasons. Ten off the top of my head.
1 ) Script and dialog
2 ) Better actors and actresses by a mile
3 ) More interesting ( and better looking ) women character
4 ) They give the fans what they want while keeping it fresh
5 ) Very few if any roll eyes moments
6 ) Funnier
7 ) Better chemistry among the actors and actresses
8 ) Much better Villains ( Omit Rouge One )
9 ) A more tightly connected storyline
10 ) Better character development and plots.
Bumping because there’s an Episode IX panel today at Star Wars Celebration at 11CDT, noon EDT. Will be live-streamed here and on the Star Wars YouTube Channel.
Reading that this might include the reveal of the title and first trailer.
FFS it’s 5 mins in and I’m bored stiff.
So, it’s The Rise of Skywalker and the Emperor is going to be back.
Just aired. “The Rise of Skywalker”
Teaser Trailer here:
Brian
Please tell me Anakin/Vader are gong to be in it.
Rise of Skywalker, fucks sake, it’s been 9 films. There have been Mr and Mrs Skywalker. Like and Leia. And Granny Skywalker and her pet tortoise, Gunther.
What exactly is going to rise?
Rise of the Skywalker is a red herring, surely?
Lando’s back on the Falcon, and wearing his own clothes!
Is that Endor? Or Yavin IV? Looks to be Death Star wreckage.
Is Kylo rising? (he is 1/2 Skywalker) that would parallel ROTJ which doesn’t thrill me.
(but come on – either he turns good and/or dies, I don’t see him staying evil at the end of the movie)
It’s “Rise of Skywalker” (no the)
Brian
My first thought on seeing the title - far in the future Rey has become a mythical figure known as The Skywalker, where Luke and company’s name has gotten grafted onto her due to the way myths/legends change over time.
Saw some really interesting theories about the Emperor’s role and that he might have been Kylo’s true master all along (which is why he was so into being the next Vader).
I hope Rey doesn’t become a blood Skywalker. But adopting the name would be fine.