My theory is that in practice the power of the empire was shared between the emperor and Tarkin, hence him holding Vader’s “leach”. It’s awfully convenient that the emperor’s biggest rival died while his right hand man survived.
#deathStarWasAInsideJob
#protonTorpedoesDontMeltReactorCores
He also thought Padme was an angel. 
Clearly there are legends of Jedi throughout the galaxy, and they have a long and storied history. But that is not inconsistent with skepticism towards the idea that the ones working for the government are just remnants of an old religious order with an exaggerated past and some traditional ceremonial roles. And the idea that Jedi warriors were involved in destroying the death star would be thought of as just as reasonable as the idea that members of some ancient order of catholic priests were.
Fodder for the Luke-is-evil theory: here’s a clip from 10 years ago of Mark Hamill talking about how he pitched the idea to Lucas that Luke should turn bad. And sitting next to him on the panel, J.J. Abrams.
Tell that to autocorrect.
I was watching a YouTube critique of The Phantom Menace and it was pointed out that in the beginning when Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon are attacked by the destroyer droids on the ship, they get away in the blink of the eye–but then they never move that fast again!
And what good would have getting the plans back been? They had FTL starships but not the cloud or internet? :dubious:
You can put that to the original trilogy having a 1970s idea of technology. The rebels stole some blueprints. It’s lucky that the Emperor had made a photocopy for the Death Star’s foreman to complete construction from.
I bet that foreman just lost them. Oh! Wait. Many Bothans died.
Not the 70’s, but I recently watched Terry Gilliam’s Brazil ('85), and he had flat screen computer monitors–although connected to typewriter keyboards.
There were some writers who had postulated something like an incipient Internet, such as Asimov’s “Multivac.” But almost no movies or TV shows picked up on anything like it until way later. At least the re-envisioned Battlestar Galactica had an excuse.
I was just thinking, since the Death Star is the size of a small moon, just how large would the hardcopy version of the blueprints have been?
They must have lost the sheet for the shield to the exhaust port.
The Star Wars setting has really bad recordkeeping. For example, nobody even knows where/what Yoda’s homeworld is.
Or of the very existence of Kamino.
All air-gapped droids for security purposes!
Of course, Vader wanted them back before copies could be made and examined for its one, glaring weakness. But hey! The Empire was on a budget.
I think that’s speculative, as was my interpretation.
I agree.
But there are stories about what happened (which is a wonderful line).
I get the impression that this will ignore those other three movies, so it’s in the same universe in which we know nothing about the history of the Jedi except they fought in something called the Clone Wars a generation earlier. It’s the same universe in which Jedi are so rare that even a worldly guy like Han Solo doesn’t believe the stories. And this is thirty years on from that.
I don’t know if the new movie will go that route or if it will have the residents of this planet being kept deliberately ignorant, but I can buy that the general populace knows that the rebels fought the empire and won and that’s it. The Jedi are as much a legend as they were in Star Wars.
Or not. We’ll see.
We’ll also see if we’re looking at a worn-out Han Solo or a bored Harrison Ford.
Star Wars has an excuse, too, although obviously a retroactive one. The galactic Holonet is basically the Space Internet, but shortly after taking power, Palpatine severely limited public access to it. It’s used purely for military communications and broadcasting propaganda during the time frame of the original trilogy.
Everything I’ve read about the Star Wars universe since Disney bought indicates that the prequel movies are still completely in continuity. And this has been confirmed by some of the new stuff Disney has come out with since then. Star Wars: Rebels started bringing back characters from the Clone Wars cartoon last season, and looks like it’s stepping it up in season two:
In last season’s finale, they brought back Ahsoka, Anakin’s apprentice, and in the season premiere last week, they introduced a bunch of retired clone troopers who had been characters in the earlier cartoon.
I don’t know if Luke would turn evil, but I could see him manipulating events to force a new generation to confront their demons and choose a side.
Who knows what else Vader may have been up to besides being the emperor’s lead henchman? He did want Luke to join him, defeat the emperor and rule the galaxy. He was making plans on the side.
Meh, I doubt Hamill has anything to do with story direction. I think enough spoilers have leaked to indicate Luke is not evil. Not that all spoilers are reliable or anything, but I just think it is unlikely. He’s far more likely to be the last remaining Jedi and end up training one(or both) of the kids from this movie.
I have not watched the prequels in a long time. Didn’t Dooku, Sidious, or someone remove Kamino from the records? It’s more that no one has heard of it or noticed its disappearance.
I don’t think this idea has come up yet in this thread, but I don’t really feel like going over this entire thing again…
Perhaps it turns out that Kylo Ren sought out Luke, who agreed to train him. Then Kylo went over to the dark side, and now Luke feels like a failure, and refuses to train anyone else. So when Rey and/or Flinn find Luke, he says “get outta here, kid.”
I’m under the impression that Luke won’t show up in the film until the last few minutes. So maybe a plot point of part VIII will be convincing Luke to train the kids, for the good of the galaxy and all that.
See post #641. 