Starving Artist - we remember you

[Morgenstern]

@don_t_ask

…The whole “Regards” schtick is ridiculous on so many levels - it annoys other people, and who would bother to annoy other people, it makes him look childish, but maybe that’s his aim and it is utterly pointless, unless you are looking for a way to make people think less of you.

I really wonder about people who let little trivial shit like that bother them on the friggen internet. It’s not like they have to read it, let alone look at it. Yet somehow, so many people muster the angst to pitch a bitch about it that’s it’s actually funny when he does it.

[Spice_Weasel]

@Morgenstern

I really wonder about people who let little trivial shit like that bother them on the friggen internet. It’s not like they have to read it, let alone look at it. Yet somehow, so many people muster the angst to pitch a bitch about it that’s it’s actually funny when he does it.

I for one think it’s charming.

And yes, in the context of a pitting, that imagined little ‘‘fuck you’’ is funny.

[Bryan_Ekers]

Heck, why not just turn it back on him. Every time you respond to a Shodan post, quote his salutation with a mocking one of your own:

@Shodan

Regards

Why, bless your heart.

[Mr.Nylock]

@Bryan_Ekers

Well, it’s possible there are multiple saps, but so far only women have summoned the effort to try to defend/redeem you, Starving. The sample size isn’t large enough to make any general hypotheses.
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That you spew bullshit is, I trust, undisputed.

And what relevance does the gender of the poster have in this situation? I am just curious.

[Hentor_the_Barbarian]

@Mr.Nylock

And what relevance does the gender of the poster have in this situation? I am just curious.

Are you asking why Bryan Ekers specified women? It is because I observed that one female poster in the past (Zoe) and one currently (Spice Weasel) decided to take it upon themselves to defend/speak for/express understanding for this irredeemable piece of shit.

It should be evident if you read a few posts back.

[Mr.Nylock]

@Hentor_the_Barbarian

Are you asking why Bryan Ekers specified women? It is because I observed that one female poster in the past (Zoe) and one currently (Spice Weasel) decided to take it upon themselves to defend/speak for/express understanding for this irredeemable piece of shit.

It should be evident if you read a few posts back.

No, I am not asking why he specified women, I am asking "What relevence does it have? Are you unclear about the distinction between those two questions?

[MsWhatsit]

Spice Weasel is a good egg and it’s nice that she’s trying to find some common ground or a place of understanding with a fellow human. It’s just unfortunate that Starving Artist isn’t worth the effort.

[Hentor_the_Barbarian]

@Mr.Nylock

No, I am not asking why he specified women, I am asking "What relevence does it have? Are you unclear about the distinction between those two questions?

No. I am unclear of the utility of the question, though.

[Hentor_the_Barbarian]

@MsWhatsit

Spice Weasel is a good egg and it’s nice that she’s trying to find some common ground or a place of understanding with a fellow human. It’s just unfortunate that Starving Artist isn’t worth the effort.

I think she is a good person, and I bet she is really uncomfortable with conflict. I don’t think good people do good things when they give cover to the grotesque though. It really is no skin off my nose what she does with her time and effort though.

[Mr.Nylock]

@Hentor_the_Barbarian

No. I am unclear of the utility of the question, though.

Then I can’t help you, unfortunately.

[Hentor_the_Barbarian]

@Mr.Nylock

Then I can’t help you, unfortunately.

Well, shit. And my night was so depending on you helping me understand your purpose.

[Mr.Nylock]

@Hentor_the_Barbarian

Well, shit. And my night was so depending on you helping me understand your purpose.

I’m sorry to have disappointed you.

[Sunny_Daze]

@Starving_Artist

[bolding mine]

Thanks. I appreciate your comments.

I’ve been wanting to come back to perhaps lend a little insight into why my thinking and the things I say might seem morally troubling or lacking in empathy to you. Basically, being a person with a conservative frame of mind, I’m simply far, far less inclined to go ballistic whenever some injustice or crime is inflicted upon somebody than are my liberal counterparts. This isn’t because I don’t care about the people who’ve been victimized, nor is it because I’m an asshole. Instead it’s because I have what seems to me to be a more practical world view in which my reaction is pretty much “well, shit happens”. It isn’t that I don’t care about rape victims, or children who are sexually abused, or women’s rights or any number of other things that get people so het up around here, it’s just that I view them as part of the overall criminality that exists in the world. So when I hear people getting all cranked up over these things I honestly find myself mystified as to what’s the big deal.

Let’s go ahead and take the case of rape, for example. Sure, rape is bad and traumatic. But so are also a hundred other things that can and do happen to people which are a lot worse in my opinion. A person could be shot, or stabbed, or have acid thrown in their face, or be pistol whipped, or set on fire, or raised in a home with parents who fly off the handle and hit or beat them for no reason at all as far as the child can tell, so they have to live their lives in fear they could be hit or beaten at any time for no reason at all and can never live relaxed or comfortable lives.

These or any number of other crimes occur routinely and they draw not a peep from anyone around here, nor from liberal quarters in general.

It’s my belief also that people suffer greater harm and psychological damage from certain non-violent life experiences too, such as those caused by becoming addicted to drugs, or being passed from one grade to the next in school without having to learn a damn thing, which results in their graduating from high school as functional illiterates unable to earn a decent living and probably condemned to live their entire lives as losers who don’t have two dimes to rub together.

And then we have people who’ve been shot, tortured, robbed, raped and killed by criminals with long rap sheets who ought to be in jail, but instead are out running around the streets still in their late twenties and early thirties, committing more crimes after having been prematurely released time after time from prison terms they were sentenced to. And I think about the pain, grief and sorrow the families of their victims have to bear.

Frankly, to me all these are much graver crimes and both more traumatic and painful than rape. But do we hear any liberals going ballistic whenever these crimes occur? Or when the criminals perpetrating them are prematurely released? Do we hear condemnation or public shaming of drug addicts? Do we hear word one about the psychological damage to the self-image and self-esteem of the kid who graduates college unable to read and condemned to a life of embarrassment, privation and struggle?

No, we don’t. And you know why? Because they’re all the result of liberal social attitudes and liberal activism.

So I’ve come to be of the mind that liberals don’t really care about people – they just care about “certain” people, and “certain” crimes, which happen to punch their buttons as being politically incorrect, while at the same time they’re directly responsible themselves for a far greater degree of harm done to what is likely a far greater number of people, and in more long-lasting ways.

So yeah, rape is a terrible crime and I don’t mean to suggest it isn’t. But there are a lot of other terrible crimes going on that in my opinion shouldn’t be going on, and until the same people who’re getting so het up every time nothing more than an allegation surfaces about sexual abuse get likewise outraged and start trying to do something to alleviate the pain and suffering caused by their own activism, I’m going to have a very hard team getting as cranked up about it as they think I should.

You may also be mystified as to how I can make statements implying that someone is too ugly to rape, or suggest using paper towel tubes as surrogate child anuses, but the fact is that I am an honest, what-you-see-is-what-you-get type of person, and when I jab faithfool over her supposed lack of sex appeal, or propose the use of a paper towel tube in order to more realistically simulate the physical difficulty a 60-year-old, 6’2" man might experience in trying to carry out copulation in some two feet off the floor, that’s all I have in mind. It never even occurs to me that some dolt might think I’m saying faithfool is too ugly to rape, or that someone is going to think I’m recommending paper towel tubes as a substitute for child anuses. To me the notion is utterly ridiculous, and for a long time I thought the people making such claims were full of shit and dishonestly seeking out some interpretation they could use to portray me in a dishonest light. I still feel that way to a degree, but in my discussion with Bricker it turned out he too thought I was suggesting the tubes as stand-ins for the children, and given that I have far more respect for him than I do my adversaries here, I began to realize that perhaps their seeing it that way was genuine after all. So now I’m willing to give them at least somewhat of a pass…at least until they keep it up after I’ve offered an explanation.

All if this is by way of trying to say to you that if I should say something that seems really out there, or outrageous and insensitive, the very likely explanation is that I didn’t mean it in that way to begin with.

You’ve been honest and reasonable in these threads and I felt I owed you an explanation given the seeming dichotomy between what you rightfully perceive to be my nice and unhateful basic nature and the comments I sometimes make that on the surface appear to contradict that perception. Hopefully you’ll take this explanation to heart because it’s the truth.

So, for the thread, really what is one to do with this? I read it all when posted and have been thinking about it since. There’s so much wrong with this. So do I unpack it all and try and explain the wrong? Or is that feeding the crazy? It’s like an itch in my head - must fix the wrong on the Internet!

I strongly suspect this can’t be fixed. Just that one circular bit about rape being committed and didn’t we know that was worse than rape. My eye is twitching. I mean, I can swear up and down for years that I sure as shit care that repeat offenders are out there repeatedly offending, but I am a liberal, so by definition I can’t. Or something. ::twitch::

I’m not voting anyone off the island…

but, SA it truly is not just your manner of expressing your opinions that has earned you this fine pit thread, it is the character of your opinions.

[Hentor_the_Barbarian]

@Mr.Nylock

I’m sorry to have disappointed you.

I appreciate your regret. I’ll just go back to my scotch and keep watching It’s a Wonderful Life with my wife. With any luck, I’ll be over the pain in an hour or so.

[Mr.Nylock]

@Hentor_the_Barbarian

I appreciate your regret. I’ll just go back to my scotch and keep watching It’s a Wonderful Life with my wife. With any luck, I’ll be over the pain in an hour or so.

Haha. I think you’ll be ok. I could go for a scotch right now. Actually a rusty nail, I have’t had one of those in a while.

[Hentor_the_Barbarian]

@ddsun

So, for the thread, really what is one to do with this? I read it all when posted and have been thinking about it since. There’s so much wrong with this. So do I unpack it all and try and explain the wrong? Or is that feeding the crazy? It’s like an itch in my head - must fix the wrong on the Internet!

If you’ve never tried, I can understand the inclination. I know I’d probably give it a go if I were you, so I won’t try to talk you out of it. And hell, every now and again it pays off handsomely. You may hit the jackpot and get something like the paper towel tube or the 100 ten-year-old boys thing.

But like any real gambling, you should realize that such jackpots don’t come frequently at all.

[Great_Antibob]

@ddsun

So, for the thread, really what is one to do with this? I read it all when posted and have been thinking about it since. There’s so much wrong with this. So do I unpack it all and try and explain the wrong? Or is that feeding the crazy? It’s like an itch in my head - must fix the wrong on the Internet!

Yeah, fractal wrongness.

I suggest alcohol. I’m rather enjoying this fine bourbon at the moment.

[Sunny_Daze]

@Hentor_the_Barbarian

If you’ve never tried, I can understand the inclination. I know I’d probably give it a go if I were you, so I won’t try to talk you out of it. And hell, every now and again it pays off handsomely. You may hit the jackpot and get something like the paper towel tube or the 100 ten-year-old boys thing.

But like any real gambling, you should realize that such jackpots don’t come frequently at all.

Right. So the jackpot is a full out blossoming of the cray-cray, to be added to the best threads evah list. Hmmmm. More beer required. It’s almost a moral dilemma. Are you part of the cray-cray if you feed it? Have you just succumbed to your minor demons by reading that nutso thesis and responding? Beer. Can’t watch that Wonderful Life thing though. ::shudder::

[Hentor_the_Barbarian]

@Great_Antibob

Yeah, fractal wrongness.

That’s brilliant, and extraordinarily apt in this example.

It’s a Wonderful Life isn’t helping. I’m just imagining Spice Weasel in the bottom corner of the screen saying, “You know, Mr. Potter isn’t all bad.”

[Great_Antibob]

@Hentor_the_Barbarian

It’s a Wonderful Life isn’t helping. I’m just imagining Spice Weasel in the bottom corner of the screen saying, “You know, Mr. Potter isn’t all bad.”

You ought to see if there’s an online video of SNL’s “lost ending” from 20 years back.

The bourbon is actually helping. That and flipping away to the various college games now and again.