Starving Artist - we remember you

When your feelings are proven to be shit (like the belief that some banks didn’t refuse services to women without their husband’s permission), you seem to ignore them.

Can somebody help me with a keyboard shortcut for “I didn’t say that”? It’s something I have to post on this board constantly and I’m getting tired of having to type it over and over again.

You said it was wrong to state that women couldn’t get checking accounts. My cite proved you wrong.

Too-late edit: some women couldn’t get checking accounts without their husband’s permission, not all women.

And then I acknowledged the circumstances under which they couldn’t get checking accounts and explained why, which means your claim is full of shit. And I also explained the circumstances under which any woman could get their own checking account without their husband’s permission. You, typically, ignore all that and revert to your previous fictional claim.

Another claim that’s full of shit is that I said some banks didn’t refuse service to women without their husband’s permission.

What I said was that women in the 50s could have their own checking accounts and I mentioned some female relatives who did. From that you cooked up the bullshit you posted above.

I’m seriously beginning to have questions about the proper functioning of your brain. You clearly aren’t stupid, but it just doesn’t function in a rational way. More and more I find myself having trouble accepting that you really were or could function effectively as an officer in the Navy. No one in the Navy with superior officers could get through their days with such a fundamental inability to interpret and retain even the simplest things. As it is I’m getting really tired of dealing with you, and if you can’t start to bring some truth and/or some sort of debating style beyond simple denial and handwaving to your posts I’m afraid I’m just gonna have to start ignoring you.

ALT-F4 should work if you’re using Windows, Command-Q if you’re on a Mac.

Regards,
Turnip

You ignored my cite and failed to support your arguments. I don’t believe your explanation is true unless you provide some evidence.

I immediately corrected this.

You failed to note until later that some women couldn’t get checking accounts, and still have provided no support for your explanation as to how they can.

Were you in the Navy, or any service?

Pardon, do you still live in the 1950s?

My peer group is roughly in their 40s/50s, and the women - like the men - have long outgrown their checking accounts. These days’ it’s all debit cards and electronic bank transfers. But there’s still no gender difference, even after all check books have been made obsolete.

You said it in direct response to a statement about how sexual assault of women was portrayed in the 50’s. You can’t pretend now that you were making some kind of general observation, you stupid, demented fuck.

You stupid demented fuck:

Groping and forced kissing is sexual assault, and it’s not trivial, you sick piece of shit.

Uh huh. Do you get off on being universally though to be a complete fool? Why else would you post things like this?

Doris Day? Bah! A token, a sop from the monochrome majority to the acme of the Aryan race, we who are commonly referred to as “freckled”. A sparse smattering of shrunken dots across the bridge of the nose will not fool us.

(It isn’t commonly known, but the character of Opie in the original scripts for the Andy Griffith Show was a gifted prodigy, but then casting chose Ron Howard for the role, and the script was re-written.)

The Dawn draws nearer, we shall have our revenge.

My mother was twenty when she was raped in 1963. The rapist pushed her into a back room and forced himself on her. She got pregnant and had a back alley abortion that she was lucky did not either leave her unable to conceive me later on or actually kill her. The rapist was not punished because no one would have believed her. She also told me she was denied the right to open up her own bank account in her own name in the 1960’s even though she had a full time job without my dad’s consent. My dad tells me he had to sign for her.

You’re a delusional, sexist nitwit who is afraid that a real woman will find out just how pathetic you truly are.

I am grateful my own daughters and I live in a society that prosecutes rapists, allows women access to legal abortion and even lets them have their own fucking bank account without the need to get a man’s consent should they marry. I am also grateful that my husband is a real man and not a quivering bowl of jelly.

Now, now little lady, you must be misremembering all that.

But it’s perfectly OK for you that they are all on drugs and never learned to read.

Telling.

My apologies to Starving Artist for this slight digression. I saw Fotheringay-Phipps make this argument in the Bill Cosby thread but didn’t get a chance to respond then. I don’t want to lose my chance now.

I saw your argument in the Bill Cosby Pit thread and was intrigued. Is there anything besides personal experience that you’re backing your claim on? I’m not doubting you. I’m just really interested in reading more about it. It sounds like an intriguing theory on a first read, but it’s not really fleshed out enough to know if it doesn’t come up against other issues if it was more fully explored. Can you point to any background material that you might have based your theories on? Thanks.

No pretending necessary, you silly, hysterical, brainwashed douchebag (do douches still come in bags? Besides you, I mean? But I digress…) Anyway, you’ll note I used the word “people” when I said that in those days people knew how to cope with things. Surely even you aren’t such a dolt as to think I meant that the entire populace was capable of coping with Doris Day’s amorous would-be lover. But just in case you really are that much of a dolt, let me state clearly and for the record that yes, I was making a general observation.

Uh, yes it is.

I don’t care what Wikipedia says, or what fifty years of liberal brainwashing may have succeeded in convincing people like you to accept, but I came of age during a less rabid time when reason and common sense ruled the day and words had actual meaning rather than being stretched and perverted to ridiculous lengths in service to political correctness. Sexual assault isn’t sexual assault unless it involves, you know, sex. Crazy, huh? And like it or not, unexpected or unwanted kissing or a hand on someone’s butt isn’t sex, and can even be an end unto themselves.

And what’s all this bullshit with the tears, hysteria and supposed trauma some 40 years later on the part of some of Cosby’s accusers who weren’t even raped but only kissed or come on to? Hell, I’ve known people who’ve lost children under tragic and sudden circumstances who could nonetheless talk fondly about their children and sadly about the circumstances of their deaths without breaking down in anguished tears, so why all the histrionics over a friggin’ kiss, for crying out loud. It’s idiotic and nowhere near believable, and neither is the sympathy they get from the likes of you and Gloria Allred.

Mostly I get off on having a chance to finally confront this idiotic bullshit head on after having to stand by for forty years shaking my head in disgust as one bit of liberal idiocy after another took root and grew and brought us to where we are now where things are moderately better for some and tragically worse for a great many more.

Anything else?

Overview of California Sexual Assault Laws Crimes generally referred to as sexual assault (see also, Sex Crimes) may be prosecuted through California’s sexual battery laws. California’s sexual assault laws (or sexual battery) prohibit unwanted touching of another person’s intimate parts. The California Penal Code defines intimate parts as the victim’s “sexual organ, anus, groin, or buttocks of any person, and the breast of a female.” When sexual assault leads to nonconsensual intercourse with the victim, it is charged as rape (see California Rape Laws for more specific information). - See more at: California Sexual Assault Laws - FindLaw
Apparently at least California disagrees. And no I’m not going to look up Pennsylvania law. If you think it’s different you prove it. Moron.

That first paragraph should be in quotes but it’s late. Sorry.

Not if it means you will craft another sentence like that, no. If Clippy says “I see you are trying to make an intelligent and lucid post! Need some help with that?”…

Say “Yes”.

I’m sorry your mother was raped and I wouldn’t wish what happened to her on anyone.

And now having made a respectful comment in regard to her and what she suffered and endured I’ll direct the rest of my post to you and in the manner you deserve.

First of all, while my bullshit meter isn’t exactly pinging it’s needle is bouncing around a little because you’ve said a couple of things that smack of wiggle room. You say the rapist wasn’t punished because no one would have believed her. And by that you mean to indict the 60s, right? Well, how do you know no one would have believed her if she never reported him in order to find out? Believe it or not rape actually was a criminal offense in the 50s and 60s and it carried very heavy penalties, up to and including the death penalty until the Supreme Court banned it in 1977. So let’s not make out like that era was a free for all rape fest where men were free to rape women all they wanted without fear of prosecution, you delusional, sexist nitwit.

And second, you said your grandfather had to sign for your mother to get a checking account. It sounds like perhaps she lived in a state where people under the age of 21 were considered minors and was that why her father had to sign for her to get a checking account? Or did she perhaps have a history of bouncing checks? I’m guessing the problem was one or the other of these, and either she didn’t tell you about it or you intentionally left it out in order to illegitimately put the lie to my claim that women could indeed have their own checking accounts, but even if not it’s hardly a ringing condemnation of 60s sexism that a father had to sign for his twenty year old daughter to get a checking account.

Oh, hey, lookey there. That must be where I got my insult from. I read your little screed while I was out running errands earlier tonight and it must have stuck. Oh, well, what’s good for the gander, eh?

But just for curiousity’s sake, just what is it I’ve said that makes you think I’m afraid that a “real woman” (whatever that means) will find out how pathetic (whatever that mean) I am? Here’s your chance, ding-a-ling. Let me have it.

Your mom did too.

Your mom did too.

I should think you’d be grateful just to have a husband. :stuck_out_tongue:

I don’t know what makes you apparently think I’m a quivering bowl of jelly as I’ve hardly been a shrinking violet on this board, but whatever floats your boat…

Thanks for the consideration but I’m the target of the thread, not the originator of it. Either way though no apology is necessary. Digress away. :slight_smile:

Ignoring the rest of your idiotic, not to mention downright offensive blathering, she didn’t say her grandfather, she said HER FATHER, meaning LavenderBlue’s father, the woman’s husband, you dumbass piece of shit.

Pay attention.

And don’t you EVER, EVER tell a woman what’s “trivial” to her and what isn’t it. Don’t you fucking dare, you pathetic fucking assbag. Your condescending attitude is EXACTLY the reason why women started protesting – not because of “liberal do-gooders”. But because of people like you telling them that you knew better than they did what was good for them. A white male, who never had to go through it. Fuck that shit. Fuck it all.