Because while I’m many things, stupid isn’t one of them. Best to keep my mouth shut.
I have rarely been so happy as to say that Zimmerman was found NOT GUILTY, when reading your post!
I’m not surprised. I think the guy was guilty, but I figured he’d be acquitted.
Not guilty. There’s no such thing as an innocent verdict.
Did you even bother to follow the trial or are you just here to stir the pot and do your Internet tough guy act? For such a seemingly intelligent person you have your moments.
True. But after the defense attorney’s closing statement asking the jurors (which was quite a bit of hutzpa, and risky, if you ask me) that he’s not just asking them to find Zimmerman not guilty, but to find him innocent, that’s as close to “innocent” as a jury trial can get.
I never doubted for a minute that it was legitimate self defence, and that the original decision to NOT arrest him was correct.
This whole thing stinks of political interference superseding the law, and I am very happy that the politician with the pink hat must be feeling like a fool now, not to mention a whole phalanx of politicians that wrongly weighed in.
How come none of them are to be heard when it’s black on black shootings in Chicago- the silence is deafening! Are none of those young black men someone’s son?
The biggest lie I heard about the whole thing was the state attorney that came out after and said it was nothing to do with race! IMO, if it were 2 black people involved, we would have had ZERO news about it, apart from perhaps a small paragraph on page 3 or something of the local paper.
I bet the sheriff that got fired for not prosecuting Zimmerman is feeling a sense of justification, and I hope he sues for unlawfull dismissal.
Perhaps Americans are too close to see the woods for the trees.
So you’re certain Martin attacked Zimmerman, right? Why do you suppose Martin attacked him?
First of all, does anyone have any links to the information about the kid who was arrested that matched the description in the burglaries? Are there any photos? My googling is just bringing up Zimmerman links.
Comedy! I love comedy!
Nope.
Counselor, are you saying that there was only one way to see the evidence? Because what the evidence actually showed, sans inferences, sans “evidence” from the accused (proven liar with an investment in the outcome, so jury free to ignore) was pretty basic:
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[li]Zim called NEN, saw Martin run, exited his truck, admitted he was following, said OK when told not necessary, banged his flashlight.[/li][li]Martin talked with Jeantel, expressed fear of Zimmerman, ran to a spot out of sight of the truck, spoke to Zimmerman first asking why, Zimmerman replied why you, possibly Martin said get off.[/li][li]Debris from both was strewn across the whole first section of three sections of townhomes[/li][li]Both of them were seen on the ground briefly, each seen on top at different points, Martins arms observed moving up and down. [/li][li]Someone was screaming with shocking intensity, scream was cut off at the instant of the shot.[/li][li]Zimmerman had two lacerations on his skull, a broken nose. [/li][li]Martin had one scrape on his hand and a hole in his chest.[/li][/ul]
Skip all inferences derived from anything. Skip Zimmerman’s statements and any inferences for or against as a result.
Do you think this evidence leads to only one conclusion? Seriously, imagine this is all we know, this is what I was talking about a while back, only then I said skip the NEN call because that’s colored by Zimmerman as well, but here I leave it in.
The only answer from this is self-defense?
You seem to be new around here so I’ll tell you:
Martin was scared of Zimmerman. Zimmerman didn’t ID himself or answer Martin except with his own question. Martin turned away to leave and Zimmerman made some move to stop him. (Because these assholes always get away)
THEN Martin hit him.
Damn, OMG, why do you hang around with people who can’t handle who you really are? Don’t you think you should find a different crowd to run with?
Because it can’t be true that all blacks have a hive mind on this issue, look at you. They didn’t have a hive mind on OJ, either, I know plenty of blacks who knew he was guilty and had no problem saying so.
Blacks may not have a hive mind on this issue but they definitely are not speaking up if they have a different opinion. Over these two years I have seen, on TV, literally a few hundred of people at least interviewed about this. Not one black person interviewed expressed any sympathy for Zimmerman or his case. Not one.
That definitely does not tell me that there are no pro-Zimmerman blacks. But that does tell me that those that are are afraid to express those views. And don’t tell me the press would have suppressed such a person and wouldn’t show his interview - they would have been very happy to show it, from the “man bites dog” kind of principle.
Got it.
I’m not the sharpest knife in the drawer. 
That’s not the impression I got about his mother. Based on her text messages to Martin she seems like a good person who tried to keep Martin on the right track. As far as I can tell she didn’t kick him out. that implies he was tossed to the curb. He was sent to his father who I’m assuming was expected to have more influence over him.
Sometimes kids are just hell bent on derailing their own lives. I’ve seen kids from really good families throw it all down the sewer and there isn’t anything anybody can do about it.
As I mentioned in the other thread, please forgive some people for seeing this verdict as a “go ahead and shoot black teenagers if you don’t like them” signal, when there are reactions like this by posters on this message board.
IIRC, the four officers were charged in Federal court with something like “violating Rodney King’s civil rights” - since the first charge was in California state court and the second was in Federal court, it wasn’t double jeopardy as they were technically two different crimes.
As for the ideas of Zimmerman moving away and possibly changing his identity, you forget two things; one, if he is sued in Florida civil court, he really can’t go anywhere (and even if he changes his identity, it would be displayed on TV stations throughout the country), and two, this is the Facebook & YouTube age - almost certainly, he would be discovered immediately and his photo and location divulged in the name of “justice”.
on what planet do you live on that a person who is frightened of someone deliberately confront that person TWICE? Nothing of Martin’s actions indicate he was frightened.
You seem to leave out that Zimmerman was at the top of the T and not at Martin’s house. Martin HAS to have gone out of his way to confront Zimmerman. This is not a little boy on a trip to Disney World. He’s a 17 year old 6 foot tall male on suspension from school and living with his dad because his mother couldn’t control him. He LIKES to fight.
He saw Zimmerman watching him and talking on the phone. He has to guess his presence there is suspect. When I was challenged as to my reason for being in front of my house I assumed the person involved was acting in the capacity of a neighborhood watch. It’s not rocket science. It’s damn insulting but there is nothing in the question that was threatening. I truly don’t understand why you think identifying himself as a neighborhood watchman changes the question even a tiny bit. What might have made a difference was telling Martin the police would be arriving any minute.
But altho I agree the State had no case for 2nd degree Murder, that doesn’t mean that Martins family doesn’t have a solid civil case. The standard of law is quite different.
If they sue and win a large judgement i will not be surprised.
OTOH, the State’s case here was so fucking bad it could mean that Zimmerman can sue them…
Once Zimmerman has his SYG hearing, we’ll see. If successful, he’ll be immune from civil liability.
Are federal charges coming up the pike? Perhaps Zimmerman should start looking for political asylum in Latin America.
Not at the trial, no. However, if he goes for an immunity hearing, he will have to prove his innocence. Should he win that, there would be an innocent verdict - although based on the evidence from the trial it’s far from clear he would win.