Stephen Coughlin Pentagon Specialist on Islamic Law sacked

What is the significance of this?

Its a conspiracy, of course! More tea?

Who can tell? The article was obviously a right-wing hack job. I searched on the internet for other sources, and was able to find, in addition to other right-wing hack jobs, several left-wing hack jobs. I cannot say any light was shed on the issue (although much heat was generated).

If there’s a cabal of pro-muslim officals in the pentagon, they’re running the least effective conspiracy ever.

I don’t know about that. Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar and Dubai seem to be profitting rather handsomely from their relationship with the United States.

That wasn’t a conspiracy, that was an auction.

Yea, but the villians in this conspiracy are supposed to be islamic extremists like the Muslim Brotherhood. Those groups hate the pro-western gov’t of the countries you mentioned and thier relationship with the US.

So again, least effective conspiracy ever. What do they send in their reports to Bin Ladin? “Well, we’ve failed to stop the recent invasions of two muslim countries, large increases of US troops into the ME or the recent sales of weapons to the Israelis and pro-western ME gov’ts, but we did totally get this one guy fired.”

Yeah! If they were real friends of America, like Israel, they wouldn’t do things all sneak like.

I think the issue is a smidge more complicated than that.

Not because they are Muslim, though. Rather in spite of the fact that they are Muslim. They have something we can’t survive without.

Are you seriously suggesting that somehow Muslim groups are somehow controlling or directing US policy, and that this Coughlin guy is a casualty of that?

What’s that? Wisdom? Love? Hope? Determination?

I can’t imagine what you are talking about…

Most of those are things they would approve of. America running wild in the ME slaughtering Muslims is great propaganda, as is support for the Israelis.

As for what really happened, who knows ? Perhaps some major scandal involving him is likely to break ( and maybe it will involve women this time, even ), or perhaps he made the mistake of advocating paying attention to reality.

Camel racing. We, as a nation, are powerless without it.

Anyhow, mswas, quit being so coy. What is your take on it? You seem to have an opinion, which you are hiding under your bushel basket. Share!

Well I have an interest in it. An amateur interest in Espionage. I don’t really have a position. I have seen people who claim to have intelligence experience who believe that he was some sort of casualty of the nature proposed in the article. I personally don’t know. I think it would be naive to assume that all Muslims working in the government have no ties to Terrorism. We’re at war, in another cycle of a war that’s been going on for more than a thousand years. The Crusades developed a lot of modern ideas, one of those was an entrenched system of espionage. I would assume that the major portion of the war on terror is being fought within the intelligence apparati the world over, like it was during the Cold War. We have politicians who have heavy financial ties to Muslim rulers across the Middle-East.

So, I don’t have a specific opinion about this scenario, but I am fascinated with the idea of such covert conflicts, which in my opinion must be occurring on some level.

Just because?

Given the rather lackluster performance of our own intelligence services in infiltrating and gathering intelligence on or altering mildly attractive targets, like oh say, Saddam Hussein’s government, what makes you so sure that Bahrain’s got such an awesome team of crack spooks that are using their secret cabal of Muslim power, to, ah, fire government lawyers?

You never expect the Bahrain Secret Intelligence Agency

I finbd it interesting that every single reference to Coughlin in the first ten pages of a Google Search on his name (eliminating the musician by the same name) produces not one news story involing him. We have one Op-Ed pice in the Moony Washignton Times and several hundred blog spots quoting, plagiarizing, or otherwise building on that one Op-Ed piece, but not a single news story–not even from the Washington Times.

I suspect a non-story with manufactured rage (and a paucity of facts) from some drinking buddy of Coughlin.

Again, it’s a smidge more complicated than that.

To put it simply. Yes I do think it’s possible that this Muslim assistant has divided loyalties. It’s not about crack intelligence teams, it’s about people and where their loyalties lie. Yes, I do think that some people in the intelligence apparatus are likely selling info across enemy lines. I would be more shocked if we had 100% operational security than I would be if I heard that it was occurring.