Stephen Coughlin Pentagon Specialist on Islamic Law sacked

No, but the borogoves were all, like, mimsy.

Uh huh. And we’re still waiting for you to provide a news report backing up your view, instead of a web of interlocking citations from the incestuous world of the right wing opinion blogosphere.

No because political purges are antithetical to personal liberty. It’s as easy to say that we should purge leftists from the government before they subvert it to their own loyalties. Our system is built on the dynamic tension between competing interests. Everyone of course waves the flag of rhetoric that they stand for liberty and have ‘the people’s’ interests at heart, but it’s all BS, everyone is out to get what they can for them and theirs. Perhaps I just see things more cynically than most and expect people in power to be always working to bend that power toward their particular interest group.

tomndebb The real reason I have been participating as such as I stated in one of the other threads is because I wanted to see the Dope’s perspective on the arguments I’ve been reading on the other message board. I got this one straight from that message board. I am interested in radical Islam. I can see a lot of point in the right wing hawk point of view, and believe it or not, my baseline would tend to be a more liberal multiculturalist slant. So if I seem to be taking a right wing stance on something that is me trying to broaden my horizons rather than trying to limit them. I for a long time believed that people across the world are simply average people and that it is special interests within each culture that foment divisions in order to seek power. I am beginning to think that view was a touch naive, though not entirely without merit. One thing that other board has made me think about more is the inherent differences within cultures that may be more intractable than the globalist liberal multiculturalist meme would have us believe. History is a series of cultural conflict. It is the intractable differences around which the various sides circle their wagons.

One of the biggest complaints I see from the right is the idea that multiculturalists in power positions do not want to admit that Islam is inherently hostile to our way of life, and that we are too cozy with Muslims at those levels of power due to a naive acceptance of another culture thinking that all cultures can just be syncretized if we sing kumbaya long enough. The accusation here in these articles is that this guy was fired for stating emphatically that Sharia law is not compatible with singing kumbaya and just trying to get along copascetically with the Muslims we are trying to do business.

One thing that someone said on the other board was that this order probably came down from Gates himself. Everyone knows how closely the Bush family is tied to the Saudis. Part of the implication is that our leadership at the very top is compromised, too busy kissing the Saudi King on the mouth.

I personally don’t know one way or another, I just like me a good conspiracy theory. I also don’t dismiss something out of hand simply because the source is from some wing or the other. I do recognize the basic nature of blogs/op-eds and their lack of checks and balances in the form of fact checking.

Maybe we multicultis won’t admit it BECAUSE IT’S COMPLETE AND UTTER BULLSHIT. Look, mswas, a lot of people on this board have lived and worked with Muslims, both in the West and in the Middle East. And we’ve know lots of Muslims who do not reject democracy, or the West, and are not hostile to our way of life. Many Muslims embrace our way of life, to the extent that their leaders allow them to do so. So cool it with the ignorant generalizations, please. SOME Muslims reject our way of life. Some =/= all, or even most.

Since I never claimed any such thing, I don’t see much merit in your post. I was merely repeating an argument I have read, as I stated explicitly.

These are not the windmills you’re looking for.

I find radical Christian fundamentalism inherently hostile to my way of life.

And clearly they find your way of life inherently hostile to theirs. 6-1 half a dozen, the other. I take all forms of extremism with about the same grain of salt. It’s interesting though, to examine extremism because in a way it’s a distilled form of an ideology. Of course it presents us with a difficulty because we are often likely to believe that such fanaticism is more prevalent than it actually is. Luckily for us, our government was setup specifically for keeping Christian fundamentalism in check. I don’t find Christian fundamentalists to be all that threatening. For me they are kind of like snakes, I just remind myself that they are much more afraid of me than I am of them. :wink:

Sorry if I misunderstood. The way you phrased it (particularly your use of the word ‘admit’) strongly implied that you endorsed the view you were describing.