If so, and you are a more serious viewer than I am, then it is both disappointing that they have gone with the bored royal wanting to see how her subjects lived and maybe what they thought of her cliche, and simultaneously sets up PD/Rose as much more monstrous than my speculative version does.
The read I had imagined a PD/Rose who never intended for it to go so far as gems getting shattered forever. Was horrified at the idea of creating a weapon (Breaking Point) that was intended to shatter.
In the version you see PD/Rose sets in motion an intended to be real rebellion with gems getting shattered, not just poofed, early on. With what thought then that would happen as a result, even as a best case? Did she have any thought as to how that would play out? Was she just sacrificing gems, both those who she was able to convince to join her Rose persona and those who were following her orders as PD, thinking that such would give her cover to retreat from the planet, and that having this battle on the planet with the shattering of gems following her commands on both sides was the best/only way to protect the life on Earth that she had come to love?
I can see a character being too scared to stand up to Blue and Yellow as Pink and creating a fictional persona to do it for her, which then goes too far and plays out in an unintended tragic manner, as one to have some sympathy for. One who instead uses a fictional persona otherwise created (to just not be so bored/constrained as a royal) to intentionally implement a war that is resulting in the shattering of gems under her command on both sides, because she is too afraid to strongly make the case as herself, as PD, that the world and its organics are worth saving? Was only upset at the idea of the Breaking Point weapon because it could possibly really shatter Diamonds like her?
I watched the first five of these last night and am wondering. Is this how the show is? I loved Avatar(TLA) and Gravity Falls, but this was a lot different. Kind of…hard to explain. I can’t put into words how I felt about it.
Steven was actually kind of annoying. Is he always this way or am I just wrong?
I’m going to continue tonight for sure and I want to love the show. I was just surprised by the ADD-ishness of it. With 11 minute episodes, how do they ever develop anything?
As this week’s releases continue they right off confirmed that indeed it was the bored royal trope. And my thought of Pearl having a more special story? Wrong.
A bit just brushing over how PD/Rose tried to “scare” the gems off the planet (By herself? Gems would more scared of a Rose who never shattered them than of the Diamonds’ wrath? Blue and Yellow would run away from Rose?) And the fact that her lies got many gems shattered and corrupted following her commands. And giving her a pass on how hard she tried to convince Blue and Yellow to not develop the planet. Just refusing did not occur to her?
The Crystal Gems team, Steven inclusive, is being way too easy on her.
Pearl explained all of this. You’re just apparently unwilling to accept her explanation.
Pink Diamond wasn’t trying to “scare” the Gems off planet; she was trying to make things too troublesome to continue the colonization effort. Pearl specifically states that if Pink Diamond had refused to proceed with the colonization, the other Diamonds would have just taken things out of her control and continued on.
At the time that Pink Diamond pretended to be shattered by Rose Quartz, Pink and Pearl were the entire rebellion. It wasn’t until Garnet showed up that the other Crystal Gems joined up. So her lies were only risking herself and Pearl, up until the point where the Diamonds escalated it to an all-out war, by which point it was irrelevant what she was lying about; the war was on, and the Crystal Gems were risking being shattered regardless. From what we’ve seen of the corruption, Rose either didn’t know about it or didn’t expect the Diamond Authority would actually use it.
Just rewatched - no line that if Pink Diamond had refused to proceed with the colonization, the other Diamonds would have just taken things out of her control and continued on. Just that “her status meant nothing to them.”
The next line was exactly: “So she decided to make a stand as someone they couldn’t ignore. She was going to scare every gem off the planet.”
So let’s stop there for a second. How was Rose going to be “someone they couldn’t ignore” and “scare every gem off the planet”? How was she going to be scarier than the prospect of facing the Diamonds.
As noted by bmoak above and reinforced today in “Made of Honor” … Pink’s “shattering” occurred fairly late in the game, well after many gems had been shattered and corrupted. No, at the time that Pink Diamond pretended to be shattered by Rose Quartz, Pink and Pearl were NOT the entire rebellion. Garnet, Pearl, Bismuth, and all the many now shattered and corrupted, were there or already destroyed. The Breaking Point was intended to shatter Pink Diamond. That was why Bismuth had to be bubbled. Other gems being shattered? Oh well. So sad.
My disappointment aside I am still very much looking forward to tonight’s episode “Reunited” as the promos make it fairly clear that there are to be some uninvited guests at the wedding.
Yeah, so I’d say it took around 30 episodes before I began to consider this a very good show. I was not a huge fan of Steven in the beginning, but by the end of the 50+ episode season, he really matured and became a better character. In many ways, his innocence is one of the best things in the show.
I’m looking forward to future seasons a lot more now.
Caught up today, seen every episode that has aired.
Good show, not my favorite of all time. I thought both Avatar and Gravity Falls were quite a bit better. Still, SU improved a lot and I really find that I like Steven a lot now. Good show, pretty neat.
So what does everyone think? Are we in the final stretch, moving toward a conclusion, or will the mystery of White Diamond create a new story arc? Will Yellow and Blue accept Steven, or will we be seeing a new gem civil war?
Personally, I’m hoping they do a Wall*E ending, with a montage of Gems and humans living and working together in Beach City, with all kinds of couples and fusion, and maybe even new hybrids, with an iris out on Steven and Connie, now adults, watching the sunset with their new baby.
[spoiler]I thought it would be longer until they revealed WD. Sorry to be wrong that she is not a fusion of the other three but she seems very … off. Unreal. Fake maybe? The WD Pearl has her gem in her belly? Not WD position head? And both the Pearl and WD have that stiff body with arms out. The very messed up WD Pearl’s left side of her face? the other than Pearl voice? WD really seems to be just a head on a statue … and BD and YD’s ships at least are two arms … PD’s the waist down … I’m not completely giving up on a sort of fusion of them to create a whole.
And how did homeworld (messed up looking isn’t it) know they were coming?
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When I imagined White Diamond, i considered many possibilities. Weary monarch, Disconnected Deity, Bloodthirsty tyrant…
I never thought that her persona would be “Brittle Midwestern housewife welcoming youngest daughter home after she finally gives up on art school”
That said, she’s weird and scary. I doubt that she’s what she seems. Her Pearl is creepy, and more like a holo-pearl than a real one. Do pearls decay with age? Maybe that’s why she’s cracked, she’s the oldest Pearl?
And how did homeworld (messed up looking isn’t it) know they were coming?
There’s a gem warship once owned by one of the four gem rulers that looks like a GIANT PAIR OF PINK LEGS, zooming toward Homeworld. Which is, itself, highly militarized. That was not exactly a stealthy approach.
There is at least one more season.
Which looks to be focusing on White Diamond… (and maybe sneeple.)
My cable box crapped out over the holidays, and I’m going to drop cable rather than pay for a new one, so I have to figure out how to watch the show.
These Homeworld episodes have shown some very unsettling things and the latest episode pretty much dashed any hopes off Steven getting Homeworld to change by convincing White Diamond or forming an empathic bond with the Diamonds.
There’s also a lot of little things to watch for that will probably need a re-watch. For example, the drawings on Pink Diamond’s vanity mirror have some interesting implications. And, of course, there are Blue Pearl and Yellow Pearl.