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21 year old superdelegate scmoozed by Chelsea, backs Obama.
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I know its a bad taste joke, but when I read the part about Chelsea having breakfast with Rae, I imagined her saying “Please vote for my mom…please, please, please…I’ll show you my tits!”.
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]
Now he seems not just rusty, but somewhat blinded by his emotional bias in favor of his wife. I think that advocating for Hillary is clouding his instincts in ways that didn’t happen when he was advocating for himself. I know a lot of people are probably too cynical to believe this, but I think he really does sincerely respect her and care about her and wants this badly for her own sake not for his (and that he honestly thinks she would be good at the job).
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That’s possible. I also thought he was enjoying the opportunity to fight back against the press when he didn’t like what they were saying, instead of being forced act Presidential.
[QUOTE=What Exit?]
I think I heard on the radio that Hoffa was planning to campaign for Obama in Ohio.
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I thought he was still buried underneath The Meadowlands somewhere. 
[QUOTE=Jolly Roger]
I know its a bad taste joke, but when I read the part about Chelsea having breakfast with Rae, I imagined her saying “Please vote for my mom…please, please, please…I’ll show you my tits!”.
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I bet the ingrate didn’t even toss her any Mardi Gras beads. 
[QUOTE=Sarahfeena]
I agree with you completely…I think he’s absolutely feeling more emotionally beat up, seeing his wife go through it than even at the worst times in his presidency. It’s very interesting to see this side of Bill, and although it may not be the best thing in the world for her right now, it lends a huge amount of insight (for me, at least) into him and who he is personally. Although I never did buy into the idea that it was just a convenience marriage, that they had an understanding, that it’s not a “real” romantic relationship, etc. He certainly seems to have some kind of problem with keeping it in his pants, but I don’t necessarily think that’s a reflection on their relationship, as odd as that may sound. I sincerely think that it is just that…a problem, which he may very well have had no matter who he was married to. She may have chosen to overlook it for whatever reason, or maybe every time she caught him he swore it would never happen again and she believes him (or wants to believe him), I don’t know what, but that doesn’t mean they don’t sincerely love each other.
It also makes me wonder if there is a different dynamic for a man to support his wife in such an endeavor than there is for a woman to support her husband. I mean, no one likes hearing their spouse get beat up by the media, I’m sure, but I wonder if there’s more of a “protective” element to it that makes it harder for a guy. I also wonder if that will be different in younger generations who have have grown up in a different time than the Clintons did.
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Well put, you and Dio. Count me as another who believes that these two do actually care very much for each other, and have come to their own terms about what would be a difficult relationship in any walk of life, let alone in the lurid glare of their public lives. Criticize them for their many other failures and flaws as you will, but denigrating their marriage, to me, is just wrong.
I am a little dissapointed in them, but yes, I think it’s even kind of romantic and sad, assuming things go the way that they are going.
Lord knows that I don’t ever want to run into Bill on a rally floor. I’m sure I’d be wiped out.
Interesting. I was figuring that if she doesn’t get the nomination, they’ll pretty much go their separate ways. I could be completely wrong about that, but I don’t really detect any romance between them. It would be pretty unusual for almost any relationship to keep the romance going that long, so it’s not just about them, as Clintons, either.
Well, I mean romantic in the old fashined way, not necessarily hot and heav- urp.
:: one hand on hip, one hand out, palm up ::
:: head facing the floor ::
:: three deep breaths ::
Um. OK, I mean in the way that a married couple who met on the street in 1920 celebrating their 80th wedding anniversary is romantic.
[QUOTE=stolichnaya]
Well, I mean romantic in the old fashined way, not necessarily hot and heav- urp.
:: one hand on hip, one hand out, palm up ::
:: head facing the floor ::
:: three deep breaths ::
Um. OK, I mean in the way that a married couple who met on the street in 1920 celebrating their 80th wedding anniversary is romantic.
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Right, me too. I’ve only been married 9 years, and I already know that the hot-and-heavy romance doesn’t necessarily last forever!
[QUOTE=John Mace]
Interesting. I was figuring that if she doesn’t get the nomination, they’ll pretty much go their separate ways. I could be completely wrong about that, but I don’t really detect any romance between them. It would be pretty unusual for almost any relationship to keep the romance going that long, so it’s not just about them, as Clintons, either.
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I think they truly love each other, but in a way that doesn’t include physicality. I don’t think Hillary has cared for a long time, if she ever did at all, about Bill’s extracurricular sex life (other, that is, for how it impacts on their political life). I’ve always tended to think of them sort of like loving roommates. There’s mutual affection and regard, but little to no sexual passion.
It seems you guys give their sex life nearly as much thought as the Republicans! 
Believe me, I think of it as little as possible. 
I feel sorry for Bill. Man, it must be bad knowing your wife’s chances at being president of the United States of America has dwindled down to miracle status if it happened, from a near-certainty a year or so ago. I’d love to be a fly on the wall right now during their private discussions with each other.
[QUOTE=Siam Sam]
I feel sorry for Bill. Man, it must be bad knowing your wife’s chances at being president of the United States of America has dwindled down to miracle status if it happened, from a near-certainty a year or so ago. I’d love to be a fly on the wall right now during their private discussions with each other.
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Given his role in helping her lose… I sometimes wonder just how sad he might be…
[QUOTE=Siam Sam]
I feel sorry for Bill. Man, it must be bad knowing your wife’s chances at being president of the United States of America has dwindled down to miracle status if it happened, from a near-certainty a year or so ago. I’d love to be a fly on the wall right now during their private discussions with each other.
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Conversations are probably short and sweet -
HRC - You’ll be hearing from my Lawyer and we’ll be in divorce court soon enough. I’ve had doubts they will stay together…maybe it’s all water under the bridge.
It would be especially awkward if she still really believed she was going to pull this off.
[QUOTE=Jolly Roger]
I know its a bad taste joke, but when I read the part about Chelsea having breakfast with Rae, I imagined her saying “Please vote for my mom…please, please, please…I’ll show you my tits!”.
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Hah, which would not be effective at all since he just came out a couple of days ago. Maybe some private time with Bill would be more effective.
This says Hillary is up in Ohio.
I do like this part: “She’s benefiting … from fewer college-educated or higher-income voters …”
Does that mean she’s big with poor white trash? 
[QUOTE=Siam Sam]
This says Hillary is up in Ohio.
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She is. By 7%.
A week ago, she was up by 20%+ There’s still another week and a half to go before the primary.
[QUOTE=Siam Sam]
This says Hillary is up in Ohio.
I do like this part: “She’s benefiting … from fewer college-educated or higher-income voters …”
Does that mean she’s big with poor white trash? 
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She’s leading in Ohio but the margin of her lead has shrunk considerably. She’s gone 20+ point gaps in Texas and Ohio to single digits in Ohio and a virtual tie in Texas (and I don’t think Obama has barnstormed in Ohio yet). Winning by single digits isn’t going to be enough for her. She needs to win 65-70% of all the remaining delegates just to pull even with Obama. If Obama makes those big states close enough to make the delegate distribution a wash, she’ll have a Huckabee’s chance of winning the nom.
I think that she telegraphed a message tonight that she will not cause trouble at the convention or try to strongarm the supers.
From Bill’s words about Texas being a last stand and Hillary’s conciliatory words to Obama tonight, I get the feeling that the Clintons may have privately made a decision to get out of the way if a miracle (i.e. blow out wins, not just wins) doesn’t happen on the 4th.