Still more penis questions

How can the concept of male “flashing” still exist? The penis (etc) is increasingly visible in movies and television and in programmes like Sex and the City women flaunt sexual confidence. If things can change so quickly on what grounds was exposure of the penis to women ever seen as a terrible crime? Is there a law against women exposing their genitals to men (in an unrequested way)?

Females flashing their genitals? Hell, there
are still people who complain about women
who breast feed in public.

I, for one, feel that there ought to be more flashing. Particularly done by females. :wink:

The laws are there to “prevent” men from flashing, not to keep women from viewing.

There is a big difference between a woman renting Boogie Nights and another unknowingly being shown a male member in public.

In the same vein, (and will probably illustrate my point better) it is the “peeper” who is guilty, not the “Peepee”, and he (usually) is the reason why the law was enacted.

I’m sure other poster will tell you men who display their genitalia in public have a mental health issue. For me, weewee waving is wrong. Period.

I know of no specific laws banning women from exposing their genitalia, a la flashing. But I’m sure most DA’s (if pushed) would treat the law as androgynous.

There are enough moral, blue or zoning laws preventing a woman from showing a little rug. Most municipalities probably feel a “female flasher” law would be redundant given that an offender could be charged under one of them.

Its against the law in the US to flash yourself but is not against the law to do it in films because films are rated on who can see the peepees.

Women only have pubic hair to flash & most are too modest to do so.

Too shy to do so?

I think I have a couple of exotic dancers you need to meet. You’ve got to be careful just WHAT beach you take them to or they’ll ‘disturb’ the male population deliberately.

BTW, I’ve been in strip clubs in some cities where they forbid anything but topless dancing, and, as most of us club hopping men know, on Friday and Saturday nights, in those ‘seedier’ :smiley: clubs, the more stoned or drunk the dancers get the more they show and the more they earn in tips, so bottoms come off.

Unless someone in an important position - like a city councilman who did not get his weenie whacked by a dancer - gets upset – nothing will be done. Piss one off, and then the exposure laws are enacted, the bar can be closed for the night, the girls exposing their bottoms arrested and fined and the club owner fined.

Personally, I also am all for more female flashers.

Guy flashers = mental problems? Perhaps but more in the psychosexual aspect. They get a sexual thrill from exposing themselves – which is not to be compared to male or female exhibitionists.

Cops don’t take kindly to this form of thing from men. In one case, local cops arrested a guy who was wandering around with no pants at night. Shirt and sneakers, but no pants. They arrested him, tossed him in the car and processed him in without giving him any ‘cover’ until he had to sit around. They did this to humiliate him. Now, they have caught a few nude girls wandering around at night and ALWAYS wrap them carefully in a blanket as soon as they can and process them in covered.

(Sometimes, it gets real interesting around here.)

Seconded. Or thirded, maybe, since Sentinel beat me to it.

At any rate, record my vote as a “hell, yeah!”

I’m against clothing in general. Clothing, in my mind, should only be used to protect against the elements. In a perfect world, we’d all go around naked. Of course, we’d also all have perfectly chiseled hardbodies, too, so nobody would mind.

Here’s a thought… whenever you’re watching “Cops” and they arrest someone for “lewd conduct”, how come it’s always someone who looks like a horses ass? Could there be a connection?

Women have more than pubic hair to flash which should become evident when movie directors find the female equivalent of Euan MacGregor who seems to have taken off his pants in just about every film he has made without developing psycho-sexual problems. Theoretically, the Phantom Menace should be X rated. As they used to say in Creem magazine, probably, for god’s sake put’em away or get another pair.

A quick poll of people here in my living room who saw Phantom Menace with me last summer indicates that no, the young Obi-Wan Kenobi didn’t take his clothes off, nor do they seem to think that the movie should be X-rated.

So, the question is, what movie DID you see in which Ewan McGregor takes off his clothes?

Are you saying that because Ewan McGregor takes his clothes off in OTHER movies, that therefore Phantom Menace should be rated X? Golly. Julie Andrews had a topless scene in S.O.B. Should we go back and stick an R rating on Mary Poppins, retroactively?

Also just want to point out that an actor stripping down for a movie is considerably different from someone flashing his penis at women in front of the Safeway.

For one thing, the actor gets paid for it.

Two films in which Ewan MacGregor wears no pants: Velvet Goldmine and The Pillowbook. Essentially it’s about motivation isn’t it? In my country nudists seem to have embraced multi-culturalism and their wishes to be seen fully frontal on television in family viewing time are suddenly respected. The rights of bathers to be naked on nude beaches are also respected. Ewan MacGregor’s rights are respected. But the motivation of the guy serving 8 months in jail for the same thing has not been seen in the same light. That may be unfair, who’s to say? A Taliban from Afghanistan cannot shift to America and lay complaints about women who don’t wear veils. How can people in a liberal country which supports casual nudity complain about seeing a nude penis outside of a movie theatre?

Can only say 285 views were done for this subject post & only 11 posts…that means lots of people here seem to be sexual lurkers :slight_smile:

Annie-Xmas:

I am not particularly happy about woman breastfeeding in public, but it is more from the standpoint of someone having a drink and not offering me one. :wink:

Well, would you like to eat YOUR lunch in the bathroom?

For some reason these replies seem cut and pasted from the Reader’s Digest circa 1959. I think men should have more self-respect - report those holes in the changing room wall next time. According to these answers women can pay to watch, watch inadvertently, ask to see, ask to touch, look through windows and not serve one minute in Jackson county. All flashers can do is wait for genitical modification - perhaps something that looks extra pretty in a bubble-gum flavour.

This may be true, but how do he know?

What about the fact that a lot flashers target children, is that ok? Flashees are also often older women. If it were my kid or grandma I’d be really pissed.
When I watch movies with full frontal male nudity, I don’t stare. There is only one penis I am interested in and it belongs to Mr Lunasea.
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Well, to me the effects of full-frontal in a movie I’m watching and getting flashed in a park are not similar. At the theatre, it’s my decision, and it’s a more removed, consumer, “safe” experience. When you are flashed, it’s more of a subtle form of assault-- the person is right there, physically present and threatening, you have little choice and are usually surprised by it, and you are very uncertain about their motives/intentions. The relationship between the viewer and the exposed person are very different in each case. Perhaps it’s a gendered thing-- when guys think about naked women exposing themselves perhaps they thing “nudie bar” (a viewing experience more like the film version, with that sort of intention behind it?) while women thinking of exposed men think “possibly-insane rapist freak in a trenchcoat and socks at the park” (with confusing and questionable intention behind it).
Not trying to start a gender dispute here. The nudie bar thing goes from male strippers, as well. An intention and context issue, really.

The crime of flashing is surely victim-biased but I don’t see why grandmothers should be worthy of a greater degree of victim-hood. Why buy into the whole grandmother thing at all - it’s something made up by Hallmark to sell cards with flowers on. Grandmothers of necessity know a great deal about anatomy and are unlikely to be afraid of it. My original question was about women and the penis not children in any way. It was about how taboos surrounding it are quickly disappearing and whether the law is out of sync with this.

Grandmothers are a conspiracy of the Hallmark Corp?