Stock Market Genius

Start off with $100,000 of virtual money and after one month of trading stocks, be the Doper with the most highly valued portfolio (last place will mocked and ridiculed).

How to play:

Sign up for a free account with Investopedia here. Please use your SD name to make it easier for participants to keep track of who is who. If your SD name is already taken, make a minor change such as adding a number after your name (my Investopedia name is xrayvision as dashes are not allowed).

Sign up for the first round which will last from 01JUL09 to 31JUL09 any time before the start of the game (late entries are not allowed). To sign up, PM me and I will PM you in return with instructions on how to find the game page and a password. Please don’t give the password to anyone else.

During the game, you can view a list of all Dopers portfolios which will be listed in order from best to worst. You can also click on the portfolios and view the trade history. The list will remain even after the game has ended.

Here is some information you’ll need to know:

Daily Volume Rule - Trades cannot exceed a certain percentage of volume for the day. The value is 10%. This prevents a thinly-traded stock from being traded in the simulator when it can’t be traded in the actual markets.

Quick Sell Rule - You cannot sell a security within a 15 minute period to reflect the fact that we are working with delayed data. This is our way of ensuring that users don’t “cheat” by trading in and out of a stock using real-time data.

Diversification Rule - The maximum amount of one stock that you can buy is equal to 50% of your starting cash. For example, you can only purchase up to $50,000 in any single stock. We do this to make the game more realistic. Though some might argue that they want to put their entire portfolio in one security this is more like gambling than investing.

Market Delay - Because we use a 20 minute delayed datafeed, it is necessary to hold market orders for a certain time before being filled.

Margin Interest - 8%. The value represents the interest rate your account will be charged if you use margin to purchase securities.

Cash Interest - 1%. This value represents the interest rate the cash balance in your account will earn. Interest is earned on the daily cash balance however it is paid to your account on a monthly basis. You can view interest payments in the Trade History section of your account.

Commission - $9.99 per trade
Changes I made to the default game settings:

Stock trading only (no options trading)

No late entry allowed

No minimum stock price to buy or short or for margin

Commission for all trades is $9.99
Anyone who has played in at least three games (a new game starts on the 1st of every month) will have an official ranking based on the ranking system explained near the bottom of this page. There will be a winner each month and a champ at the end of the year (the Doper with the highest rank).
I’d like to have a quick practice game where a few of us could try this out and see if the settings I chose work well and if the rules need to be altered in any way and if any pertinent info needs to be shared with those that sign up for the first real game.

If you’d like to participate in the practice game, sign up for an account after clicking the link in the beginning of this post (don’t forget to choose a name as close to your SD name as possible). PM me and I will PM you back a password. After you receive the password, click here and sign in if you aren’t already. Point your cursor over “Simulator” and then click on “Games”. Click on “Join Game”. In the “Search Games” box, type in SD test game, click on “Search” and then “Join”. Trading starts Monday morning at 0930 EST and the game will end Wednesday. Don’t worry about making the best choices that will win you the game; it’s just for testing the waters.
On or around 15JUL09 I will post a link to the August round of “Stock Market Genius”.

This sounds like a pretty fun game, if I knew how the stock market worked in the least.

This is a great way to learn. Pick some companies, find the stock symbols for them here and “Buy” if you want to gamble on the stock price going up or “Sell Short” for the price going down. You’ve got nothing to lose. :wink:

Damn you and your logic!

I can’t handle that kind of mental strain when I’m all tired. :smack:

To clarify, is the goal to maximize returns, or to be the one with the highest returns? It makes a huge difference in strategy.

The goal is to rank as high as you can on the list of players. The winner will be the Doper with the portfolio worth the highest dollar value at the conclusion of the month long game. Second place will go to the Doper with the portfolio worth the second highest dollar value, and so on.

The Grand Champion of 2009 will be the Doper with the highest rank that has played in at least three month long games during the current year.

OK, if the goal is to be the best, then the strategy is to take a lot of risks, since the winner will almost certainly be someone who took risks and happened to get lucky. Of course, the last place is also likely to be held by a risk-taker, too, but picking “safe” investments will just guarantee you a spot in the middle.

Would it be fair if I played? I work for a brokerage firm.

Sure, it would be great to have a pro join in. :slight_smile:

Probably the best free online source of real time market data is

Baron’s Market Data

Eh?

See, already you lost me. Please explain the difference.

Thanks.

I’m assuming that’s the message you received while trying to join the practice game. That game was only for two days and is already over. I’ll post the name of the first real game which starts on the First of July by tomorrow. The password is the same. No late entries will be allowed (must be signed up before July 1). Anyone who would like to join in, just PM me and I will PM you back the password.

Sure, somebody has to be last.

Okay, the game starting on the First of July has been created. If you’d like to play, sign up for a free Investopedia account after clicking here. Don’t forget to choose a user name as close to your SD name as possible. PM me and I will PM you back a password. After you receive the password, go to the game page and point your cursor over “Simulator” and then click on “Games”. Click on “Join Game”. In the “Search Games” box, type in Stock Market Genius JUL09, click on “Search” and then “Join”.

I PMed you about joining. Lets see some more people join this! I am an indexer with my real money so this could be interesting.

The problem is if I do well at it, I’m going to be really pissed I didn’t use real money.

Game starts tomorrow. Bumping this thread in case anyone that might be interested in playing has a chance to see it.

I’m in. PM sent.

Well, this isn’t going as good as I had hoped. Only two of us are trading (and man, am I getting slaughtered!). Maybe more will be interested for the August game?

If you’re interested in playing the August game, follow the directions in post 15 but replace Stock Market Genius JUL09 with Stock Market Genius AUG09.

I made a few changes. I changed Market Delay to 1 Minute (the minimum allowed) and Quick Sell to Disabled. Real time data for most stocks are available for free using Google Finance and Yahoo! Finance. I also lowered Daily Volume to 5%, With it set a 10%, I wasn’t able to purchase some stocks (or in some cases enough shares) that I had no problem buying IRL.

Also, I figured it would be fun to have a game that would last forever and Dopers could join in at any time. Let’s see who will be the first to turn $100,000 into a million. To Join that game, follow the directions in post #15 and replace Stock Market Genius JUL09 with Stock Market Genius.