Stop making up words, imbeciles

[askeptic]

@YaWanna

Please fight my ignorance - I assume the term “Updikeing” refers to the author of the “Rabbit” series of novels, but since I’ve never read any of them, I can’t assign a meaning to this word except what can be inferred from the context. (Ooh, nice run-on sentence, babe.)

Would you mind clarifying for me? Thanks muchly.

Dude, what fucking rock have you been hiding under?
The banning of updike was the talk of the board untill like …yesterday.

It was a reference to the late unlamented banned poster named Updike. I was insinuateing that the person was acting like the banned poster. If you are unaware of the incident I suggest you search for the threads involved. Some of the funniest shit to happen in a while.

[Hostile_Dialect]

Irony of ironies, I have to post again to note that I was too dumb to use preview and see that my quote tags got coded. Well, TBJ, type thusly:

[ quote=EddyTeddyFreddy ]Thing ETF said.[ /quote ]

Thing you want to say.

[ quote=George Johnson ]Thing George said.[ /quote ]

Thing you want to say.

etc. without the spaces between the brackets and all that.

oh yeah, and that thing at the top was an error message I was saving in Notepad and forgot to delete.

[YaWanna]

@askeptic

Dude, what fucking rock have you been hiding under?
The banning of updike was the talk of the board untill like …yesterday.

It was a reference to the late unlamented banned poster named Updike. I was insinuateing that the person was acting like the banned poster. If you are unaware of the incident I suggest you search for the threads involved. Some of the funniest shit to happen in a while.

Thanks for the 411, even though you called me Dude. (Fuck, I hate that! I’m a woman! With breastages! )

[askeptic]

@YaWanna

I’m a woman! With breastages! )

Cite? (with pics)

[saoirse]

@Excalibre

And again, I’m saying that there’s no linguistic rule that would decide that applausage isn’t a word. Sure, it’s stupid-sounding, but that doesn’t mean it’s not a word. And as I’ve explained, you misinterpreted the meaning of independent in that definition.

I understand now. I didn’t say there was a rule about it, or that it couldn’t be a word. I said it wasn’t, and that in order to be a word it would have to convey something other than, “Look how I can twist up the word applause.”

[YaWanna]

@askeptic

Cite? (with pics)

I’ll ask the tech for uploadable copies…Linky

[movingfinger]

Applause: The clapping together of hands to express appreciation for someone or something.

Applausage: The aforesaid clapping of hands PLUS stomping of feet, cheering, cries of “boogie!”, tossing of small coins and ladies’ underwear in the direction of the appreciated, spontaneous lighting of matches, hysterical crying, shouts of “Free Bird!” and the occasional fainting of very young and suggestible girls.

What? Sounds good to me, and not all that different from “signage”. Well, except for the ladies’ underwear bit.

[Snowboarder_Bo]

I now will offer full admitage that y’all have showed me full indicativitity of the errorage of my ways. From here on out y’all gots my promise to embrace new words, jargon, slang, speech patterns etc., no matter if the rest of the worldage will view me as possibly being the retarded son of a hip-hop preacher or as a completanamous moron. I’ll sleep soundfully knowing that I’m just on the cutting edgeness of the languageage. Thanks so muchly. Y’all pwn.

[Bosstone]

@Snowboarder Bo

I now will offer full admitage that y’all have showed me full indicativitity of the errorage of my ways. From here on out y’all gots my promise to embrace new words, jargon, slang, speech patterns etc., no matter if the rest of the worldage will view me as possibly being the retarded son of a hip-hop preacher or as a completanamous moron. I’ll sleep soundfully knowing that I’m just on the cutting edgeness of the languageage. Thanks so muchly. Y’all pwn.

Why, that’s positively supercalifragilisticexpialidocious!

[Excalibre]

@Snowboarder Bo

I now will offer full admitage that y’all have showed me full indicativitity of the errorage of my ways. From here on out y’all gots my promise to embrace new words, jargon, slang, speech patterns etc., no matter if the rest of the worldage will view me as possibly being the retarded son of a hip-hop preacher or as a completanamous moron. I’ll sleep soundfully knowing that I’m just on the cutting edgeness of the languageage. Thanks so muchly. Y’all pwn.

Somehow, I still detect some sarcasm here.

I guess it’s good that you’re at least backing down from your ill-conceived fight, but the fact that you actually are making up words in this paragraph (in contrast to the examples you were arguing, which simply did not involve made-up words) makes me suspect you still don’t actually understand why everyone else was arguing with you at all.

Oh well. I guess if we can’t defeat it, a strained truce with ignorance is the next best thing.

[Find_Friends]

@fetus

Access violation at address 005418AE. Read of address 00000000
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True Blue Jack, one post at a time, please! If you want to quote multiple posts, type your ONE POST thusly, using copy and paste where necessary:

Your sense of humor seems just fine, but hey, that's just True Blue Jack saying so. People who disagree with you might not consider it much of an endorsement.

Sort of similar to the nonplussed reaction social conservatives showed when Playboy gave its endorsement, circa 1970, to detailed sex education in the schools.

Or "hocks" as somebody physically present yesterday afternoon kept saying today: Maybe it's a hocks./ Looks like someone is being hocksed. Etc.

Don't quite get what you added to the "WHOOSH" but thanks.

Etc. etc. Seriously, it disrupts the thread to have a whole page of True Blue Jack or whatever else in the middle of an otherwise flowing conversation. Especially if all you’re doing is thanking each poster for contributing.

There was a poster very recently banned, named Updike, who upon seeing that he was losing an argument started frantically banging drums for sympathy by saying that both his parents were killed in the World Trade Center on Sept. 11. Some other posters (maybe mods) noted that he’d very recently talked about his parents in the present tense, and he admitted he lied in the Pit and got banned.

Okay, I wondered about the multiple postings… after I did them. Yes, it’s true that I was essentially thanking a lot of people, and even with the extra comments I could have put all or most of them in one post.

What you said makes sense, and I won’t do what I did again.

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True Blue Jack

[Kimstu]

@Excalibre

And again, I’m saying that there’s no linguistic rule that would decide that applausage isn’t a word.

I think you and saoirse may be talking somewhat at cross-purposes here. S/he seems to be talking about how what we might call “recognized language-use authorities” (dictionary compilers, editors, language teachers, etc.) determine what subset of possible words in a language counts as a recognized word in the generally accepted vocabulary of a language.

You, on the other hand, seem to be talking strictly about how linguists recognize words according to scientific linguistic principles.

And you’re coming up with two different answers, since as saoirse rightly says, “applausage” is not a recognized part of generally accepted English vocabulary, while as you rightly say, there’s no strictly linguistic reason why it couldn’t be.

The cause of the confusion, IMHO, is largely that although linguistics is (as you note) a purely descriptive science, whereas language standardization is a non-scientific combination of prescriptivist authority and slowly-changing common usage, on a superficial level they often seem to be talking about the same thing.

So a teacher, or an editor, or a Scrabble player, can with perfect justification exclaim “‘Applausage’ isn’t a word!”, while a linguist can with equal justification exclaim “There’s no reason to say that ‘applausage’ isn’t a word!” And the poor puzzled layperson gazes from one to the other, scratching his/her head and thinking, “So what exactly does it mean to be a word, and why can’t you guys agree about it?”

[Monty]

About Scrabble…

I read an interesting (to me) article in GAMES Magazine not so long ago about that. A champion player stated that Scrabble wasn’t actually a language game, but a math game. I see his point as the letter tiles are assigned numerical values and the rules limit the possible combinations of letters (words) to those already listed in a particular dictionary. In other words, it’s a game of numbers where, say, the number 123789 may not be permitted.

[Excalibre]

@Kimstu

I think you and saoirse may be talking somewhat at cross-purposes here. S/he seems to be talking about how what we might call “recognized language-use authorities” (dictionary compilers, editors, language teachers, etc.) determine what subset of possible words in a language counts as a recognized word in the generally accepted vocabulary of a language.

You, on the other hand, seem to be talking strictly about how linguists recognize words according to scientific linguistic principles.

Except we weren’t. The hijack is over; I don’t think it merits further discussion, but the question was “What do linguists consider the standard for something to be a word?” And she answered it using a (valid) definition of “word” from a linguistics class - one that she happened to misinterpret somewhere along the way.

The cause of the confusion, IMHO, is largely that although linguistics is (as you note) a purely descriptive science, whereas language standardization is a non-scientific combination of prescriptivist authority and slowly-changing common usage, on a superficial level they often seem to be talking about the same thing.

Part of the trouble is the silly nonsense of describing certain things as “not a word”, which doesn’t make sense under any standard, since (like I asked) what the hell else could it be? It’s a stupid word, to be sure - and most linguists would probably agree, since most (in my experience) have the sort of facility with language that “language authorities” have, and we tend to be equally annoyed by poor use of it. That said, we tend to draw a firm separation between issues of grammar and those of style or good usage.

At any rate, given the conversation, I don’t think we really were speaking “at cross purposes”. saoirse was giving a linguistic definition - it’s just that she didn’t remember it perfectly.

[Hostile_Dialect]

@Snowboarder Bo

I now will offer full admitage that y’all have showed me full indicativitity of the errorage of my ways. From here on out y’all gots my promise to embrace new words, jargon, slang, speech patterns etc., no matter if the rest of the worldage will view me as possibly being the retarded son of a hip-hop preacher or as a completanamous moron. I’ll sleep soundfully knowing that I’m just on the cutting edgeness of the languageage. Thanks so muchly. Y’all pwn.

Just how thick is your skull? You’ve failed to point out that any new words or “slang” have been invented by anyone in any of the examples you gave, except by you when you were building strawmen. “symptomatology” is not jargon or slang, it’s a word that has a specific meaning. It was not misused nor was it used in an improper context.

[Snowboarder_Bo]

@fucktardo

Just how thick is your skull? You’ve failed to point out that any new words or “slang” have been invented by anyone in any of the examples you gave, except by you when you were building strawmen. “symptomatology” is not jargon or slang, it’s a word that has a specific meaning. It was not misused nor was it used in an improper context.

Hey fucktardo, I SAID y’all were right and now I’m edumacated on wordage. I even said “thank you” for all the fucking insults and whiny rhetoric that I enduranced. What the fuck more do you want, should I come over to your fucking house and shout over a bullhorn at you? Shut the fuck up already, you lame piece of shit douchebag goatfelcher cockboy. FFS, are you just looking for a dead horse to beat because your penis is bruised from all the excess whacking? :mad:

And by the way, rhesusfetus, ALL words are made up. I thought someone as fulled up of smartitude as yerself would’ve knowed that. Especially since Monty has already stated it in post #168, jackass:

@Monty

A further note: All words are “made up.” That’s how languages in which the word originates gets the word: someone makes up the word and then it becomes popular.

So in the end, I was part right about something… people have and do and are and will continue to make words up. It’s just that now I’m fulled up with embraceology for the new wordification.

In closing, fetus scraped off the wheel, learn to read and comprehension the wordages and shut your fucking piehole.

[Hostile_Dialect]

This is a free country, and you can get as nasty as you want, but in the end you’re the ignorant one. Cry me a river, you poor pile-on victim! Know what? I’ve been burned in GD and the Pit before, although probably not as bad as you have been here. It sucks, but it happens for a reason; sometimes because of a grudge, but usually because it’s a great opportunity to learn something. Whether or not you learn anything from it is your decision, I’m just pointing out that you seem to not understand why you’re being piled on and you seem to refuse to learn something from it; you seem more to be conceding just to get people to shut up. Well, again, that’s your call, but I sincerely hope you take a chill pill, re-read the thread and understand that neither “symptomatology” nor “signage” are words that were/are artificially invented for the purpose of sounding smarter.

[mrrealtime]

what a train wreck of a thread…quite spectacular! Traffic is actually slowing down in this lane thanks to all the lookie loos…

[Monty]

Snowboard Bo,

Yep; and I managed to mangle the grammar in that posting. I should’ve said “…get the word…”

Nothing like subject-verb agreement. That’s exactly what I had in that part: nothing like it.

[Excalibre]

@Snowboarder Bo

Hey fucktardo, I SAID y’all were right and now I’m edumacated on wordage. I even said “thank you” for all the fucking insults and whiny rhetoric that I enduranced. What the fuck more do you want, should I come over to your fucking house and shout over a bullhorn at you? Shut the fuck up already, you lame piece of shit douchebag goatfelcher cockboy. FFS, are you just looking for a dead horse to beat because your penis is bruised from all the excess whacking? :mad:

And by the way, rhesusfetus, ALL words are made up. I thought someone as fulled up of smartitude as yerself would’ve knowed that. Especially since Monty has already stated it in post #168, jackass:

So in the end, I was part right about something… people have and do and are and will continue to make words up. It’s just that now I’m fulled up with embraceology for the new wordification.

In closing, fetus scraped off the wheel, learn to read and comprehension the wordages and shut your fucking piehole.

You still don’t understand even the slightest thing about the arguments the other users gave. I’ve moved from finding this puzzling to just plain being amused - you didn’t know the first thing about the subject, you made an incoherent thread, you got thoroughly whupped by those who understand the issues in question, and you’re still trying to use sarcasm to make it seem like you had some valid point - only the sarcasm you’re using just makes it thoroughly clear that you didn’t understand anything anyone else said.

It’s pathetic, but it’s also funny. What’s the phrase? Oh, yeah - point and laugh at the retard.