What value does “Trump is the anti-christ” even add. Dude is bad enough without attributing extrabiblical evangelical religious beliefs to him. It is, perhaps accurate to say that Trump is more in line with the stated qualities of the anti-christ than Obama was when pointing out the irony inherent in some of the right’s statements, but I can’t see what the accusation adds. Now, of course short pithy statements that aren’t strictly literal are useful from an organizing, solidarity, and motivational perspective (“eat the rich”, “bring out the guillotines”, some flavors of “nazi” accusations, whatever), but I’m not sure “Trump is the anti-christ” really serves that purpose better than a billion other things you could use.
Granted, not being a Christian/Evangelical I’ll grant I’m not the intended audience.
I never said Trump was the actual anti-christ. I don’t believe in an anti-christ. But the guy really does personify immorality, and his voters, many of whom consider themselves religious, couldn’t care less. Its confusing.
I mean its not ‘that’ confusing when you accept that authoritarianism and white identity politics is what truly motivates his base. But the fact that they don’t even give lip service to morality after talking about it for decades is just weird.
Trumps former chief economic adviser once said of him that he is ‘Less a person than a collection of terrible traits’. That is what I was getting at. He embraces almost everything terrible. Incompetence, stupidity, racism, sexism, treason, authoritarianism, greed, lust, pride, insecurity, easy to manipulate, etc. etc.
Sexually abusing people, cheating on your spouse, wanting to fuck your daughter, stealing from charity, lying constantly, ripping off people who worked for you, threatening to sue people who accuse you of sex crimes, making fun of the disabled, sucking up to dictators, using racial and religious bigotry for your own advantage, etc.
I don’t understand how people can be so radicalized they can’t even see these things.
It would be one thing to see them and not care. But to not even see them is confusing.
I understand your concern and I see how you might see it as an action that supports, or even encourages, illegal entry. I can see how you might be inclined to conclude that Democrats and liberals are for open borders. However, I ask you to consider the following: Is it possible that they meant that it would be the right thing to do to provide healthcare to every person, regardless of status, while immigration and illegal flow of people is addressed in a more comprehensive fashion? Refugees in far worse situations around the world are offered a modicum of healthcare. Much of that aid is provided by America, using our tax dollars. Would it be such a travesty to offer healthcare to those who entered the US illegally? Are we not better as a society if we care for those most vulnerable among us?
For a change, it would be refreshing to hear an argument that didn’t start with, ‘What about Obama and/or Clinton.’ Not in an effort of absolving anything they may have done wrong, but just to see if there is a valid argument to be made in defense of Trump’s actions. Is that too much to ask?
Why would I need to tell you what your routine is? You and pretty much every-single-poster who posts and lurks here knows how you like to perform as a poster.
ETA: Oh yeah,
ETA 2: To the OP, sorry for the hijack.
Sure. “I don’t care what Trump says on Twitter. I don’t care what he says on a campaign rally. I don’t care what he did in his past, because if it was illegal, he’d have been arrested. I don’t care about what you think is moral. I don’t care if you hate him”
Those are valid criticisms, so are criticisms of Bill Clintons sexual behavior.
But my point is that on the left we’re aware of these issues. Some of the biggest criticisms of Obama’s drone wars or his war on whistleblowers came from the left.
It seems the right doesn’t even consciously register Trump’s failings.
But just to make sure I’ve understood you: It’s not that you don’t think he’s done some questionable, possibly illegal, things. It’s that you, “don’t care”.
