Straight doper males - have you ever masturbated with another man?

No. It would have been seen as very unusual to say the least to even suggest such a thing when I was a teen (late '70s early '80s).

I read about such things later, but took it to be more in the realm of urban myth than reality - of course I could be wrong in that. How one would even bring it up as a possibility in a teen culture laden with homophobia (as ours was at that time) is a bit of a mystery to me.

No, no way. Can’t even imagine it crossing my mind.

I knew I was gay since the age of 5, but never acted on it until I was 18. It’s interesting that all through junior high and high school, the straight guys were having more guy/guy sex than I was.

The examples in this thread don’t sound very straight to me.

Does that mean you’re gay? :smiley:

Y’know, now that you mention it, you may be on to something. It must have been my typos, not the copious amounts of guy/guy sex I’ve had*.

  • just kidding. I have not had any, let alone copious, amounts of gay sex 'cuz I’m not, you know, gay.

At a minimum, a guy having sex with another guy makes said guy bisexual. Which is not heterosexual. More “Bendy” than “Straight”.

This was sort of the point of Kinsey’s work, documenting these variations in male sexuality. Warping the notion of straight to cover all sorts of bisexual or homosexual sorta renders the OP’s premise moot.

No.

I have no problem with other guys doing it, but I have absolutely no interest in such a thing, and in fact the thought is more of disgust.

I basically want nothing to do whatsoever with another male’s sexuality.

Well, this is getting confusing. The idea that I, myself, masturbate myself in the presence of another guy doing likewise is, to me, kind of gay. But now we’re branching out to guys getting blowjobs from other guys and not necessarily being gay? Are there straight guys who give the blowjobs who are not necessarily being gay? The implication seems to be that getting blowjobs is just so wonderful that the pleasure can be completely detached from the knowledge of who’s providing this service? Do some of us live up to that stereotype?

So the next question should be: Are there any guys giving or getting anally who might not necessarily be gay? Just, you know, going with the flow?

The term is “gay-for-pay.”

Yes, I’ve done it, after a fashion. Back in college a group five of us decided to pool our 3 rooms: make one the study room, one the hanging-out room, and one the bedroom. At one point we started discussing masturbation. It turned out that a)we all did it, b)we were forbidden to do it by our parents and everyone else, c) we’d read that most guys did it, and d) we didn’t quite believe that. So we all decided to do it at the same time, as proof that it was commonplace, and as a screw you to all the people who had proscribed it.

We did it in our separate beds, with the lights out. I’ve never actually seen another person jack off (except in some movies), and have zero desire to ever do so. But this was quite a cathartic experience for all of us. Years of guillt were obliterated.

I think we did it three times, then, point proven, never did it again.

For what it’s worth- in my introduction to the patient class (how to interview patients basically), we were taught to not only ask about the sexuality of the person, but then to add the clarifications, such as “have you ever engaged in anal or oral sex with another man” because simply by getting their sexuality does not give you the correct information. As there are some who believe that being the “pitcher” in anal sex, or the receiver of oral sex is not engaging in homosexual behavior, and can be considered fully heterosexual.
Hence, we’re now being taught to clarify and just ask both questions.

No. Our sexuality is more defined by what we are attracted to than what we do. Straight guys having sex in prison are still 100% straight. And most of the younger gay guys I know had experimented with straight sex and decided they didn’t like it. They are still 100% gay.

It comes down to who you fantasize about. If you always fantasize about the same gender, that determines what you are. True bisexuals fantasize about both genders.

So those of you who jerked off together as teenagers . . . the only relevant question is: Who were you fantasizing about? If you weren’t fantasizing at all, and just focused on the other guy . . . well, that says it all.

I have to jump in on the defense of dhkendall here. Personally, I believe one can only be gay if there is a emotional bond between men. I.e. if you can fall in love with him. I believe one can have a sexual relationship without having any feelings associated with it. Especially us men can pretty easily seperate love from lust. Rape victims get aroused, inmates have sex with each other, teenagers experiment.
Rubbing one off because you are horny and enjoying your friend mouth while thinking of your neighbour makes you pretty straight. Hell, I have had sex with women just to get into bed with their boyfriends, does that make me bi?

On review, I see panache has allready said it all.

Giving I don’t know, but receiving? Hell yes. The anus is a pretty big erogenous zone for most men, and one part of the body that a woman cannot sufficiently stimulate in most cases. Some straight men ask their partner for a strap-on, others turn to other men. Again, I don’t see them as gay.

So would that mean that “hetero” males who have sex with women without loving them are not really heteros?

I’m saying that ‘hetero’ males who can’t fall in love with women (at all) aren’t heteros. Maybe they are gay, maybe they are asexual, but they aren’t hetero.

Who says they can’t they simply didn’t.

Well, then they’re probably still undecided. I suppose they would still be hetero, as that seems to be the default orientation and you are only labelled gay when you have your first man love, but to me, someone who has no emotional connection to either gender yet is just in it for the sex, and technically undecided.

Well to be honest a friend’s brother-in-law is an AIDS counsellor and he did explain to me that they don’t consider their clients to be gay, just MSMs (men who have sex with men) because many of them do not identify as gay.