Recently I have begun baking again, something I had not assayed since my eyes went to shit. Tonight I made peach cobbler with the occasional assistance of my stepdaughter. Once we put the dish in the oven we had a jovial conversation in which we debated just how easy it is for an attractive woman to seduce a man she desires . One of us felt it was trivial; the other did not agree, Arguing that the difficulty depends on how confident the man in question is in his dealings with women .
Thoughts?
Not relevant to the thread, but I’m glad to see you’re eyes are in decent enough condition to be posting here again. Best wishes!
Men seem to think it’s easy, or at least I’m given to believe from comments they make. In my experience, it’s not that easy. The males that are receptive aren’t necessarily the ones you want to catch.
I think it entirely depends on the man. Me, single, age 25? It would have been incredibly easy. Me, now, married, and closing in on 40? I’m confident I could resist anyone except for Janelle Monae.
As a young student I seemed to attract older men. It was fine when I was waitressing one semester. I got big tips. But it was a chore to deal with in my everyday life. The grocery store was a obstacle course sometimes. It stopped when I married and got pregnant. Seducing wasn’t something I sat out to do, so I always assumed it would be easy if I needed to do it.
I’ve wondered about this a bit, myself. Do you think it’s a matter of knowledge or skill? I think different men have different things that appeal to them. Even if some woman wanted to, I don’t know if she’d be able to figure out my particular weaknesses, or to successfully exploit them.
My (statistician) friend says that any man who says this is lying.
Clearly a series of controlled experiments are called for.
Would you like to contact Ms. Monae, or shall I?
I am sure it is probably easy for some women. For me personally? Not so much. (Even if you specify that the woman is attractive, seducing someone takes a level of confidence and social adeptness that not everyone possesses.)
Are we distinguishing between seducing a man to do something he considers immoral, unethical, or illegal (like cheating on his wife, sleeping with a subordinate, or getting involved with an underage girl), vs. situations where there are no such hindrances?
This is a common myth that doesn’t actually hold up to reality, and tends to rely on a lot of circular logic. There are significantly more men into casual sex than women, so if you find a guy who just wants a casual bang and you’re someone he finds attractive, it’s certainly easy to offer him what he wants. I’m not sure that I’d really call it ‘seduction’ any more than if I go to a party with people who want to get drunk and offer them free beer, that I’m ‘seducing’ them to drink my beer. But there are men who simply aren’t into casual sex, though there is strong social pressure for them to pretend to be in conversation, who just won’t be into the offer. There are guys who’s ‘attractive’ range doesn’t include the standard, so won’t actually find the seducer attractive, and that includes racists who won’t be interested in an attractive [race] woman no matter what. There are men with strong fetishes who won’t be interested in an offer for vanilla sex. There are men in committed relationships who actually don’t cheat. There are men who don’t have an interest in real life women, either as a preference or a pathology. There are men with significant trauma who can’t stand being touched at all.
So while there are certainly a lot of men who will have casual sex with a conventionally attractive woman, in a lot of those cases ‘seduction’ is too strong of a word, and there are a lot of men who won’t be interested or even will be actively hostile to the idea.
The perpendicular answer is that it never in my life occurred to me to try to seduce a man.
Not said often enough, IMO.
A-men to that!
Seriously though, when I was young, I didn’t even have to try. Just sitting there was enough.
Now? If I worked on my looks a bit, I suspect it would be easy to snag a lonely older guy. Might have to do a bit more than just sit there though.
It also depends on what the woman is trying to get. I wouldn’t be very receptive to someone looking for just a one-night stand, but if the same woman were interested in a genuine long-term relationship (or at least, managed to convince me that she was), then I might be.
Of course, this also puts some requirements on the initial conditions. If some random woman bumps into me in the grocery store and says “Hey, you’re hot”, then I’m not going to assume that she’s interested in a long-term relationship. But if we happen to already know each other in some way, and have conversed before, then it becomes more plausible.
That doesn’t seem to be related to the question being asked; it’s asking if the group “straight men” are easy to seduce, not if it’s easy to find a straight man who it’s easy to have sex with. If the OP is really just wondering “is it easy for a conventionally attractive woman to find some straight man interested in casual sex with her”, then the answer is just a boring ‘yes’. (Also, it’s not actually hard for a conventionally attractive man to find a woman interested in sex with him, even if you don’t count ‘pay $100 like the guys in the escorts threads’ as easy).
The question only really seems worth discussing if you’re talking about it in the sense of ‘all straight men’, not ‘any straight men’.
It’s easy for most women to find a man to seduce if she really wants to. Some people confuse that with women being and to seduce any man, but even if they’re really attractive there are plenty of men who’d resist. If the man’s married with kids they’d quite possibly be ruining their entire lives for one night of sex, and yeah, some men would still go for it, but all? Not likely.
I think several other things would at least come into consideration for many men, even single men. If this is a woman I just met, how do I know she isn’t mentally unstable? How do I know she isn’t working with someone else and plans to rob me once I’m naked? If a woman I had never met tried to seduce me, even if I were single, I’d be asking myself those questions (and others as well).
An 80 year old woman can go out and get laid within a couple of hours if she sets her mind to it.
When I was a lonely twenty something who couldn’t get a date to save my life it would have been easy. Now, as a married fifty something, it would be impossible (unless the seductress is Ms. P, of course). Even at my most lonely and frustrated I wouldn’t have gotten in the sack with a woman I knew was married, though.