Stupid Boss Tricks

Hopefully this can stay out of the Pit. I promised my great-great-granduncle Lucy I wouldn’t wantonly start Pit threads.

Let’s share stories about monumentally dumb boss behavior. Not necessarily unethical or illegal behavior–though those are welcome–but primarily acts that were likely to have the exact opposite effect of their ostensible purpose. Acts that make you think the boss is a double agent for the competition. Things that make you seriously consider hiring an army of undead ninja robot spider assassins to kill the boss. Things like that.

I’ll go first:

Back in Christmas 2000, I was working at Sears in the electronics department. I’d been there for some years and was, if I may say so, a very competent salesman from both the customers’ and the store’s point of view. I could always answer a customer’s question correctly, or find the right answer quickly; I never tried to steer people towards buying more expensive items than they needed; and I generally got very high marks from mystery shoppers. And–most importantly from the stores POV–I not merely met but actually exceed the target for selling maintenance agreements. If the store wanted 7 percent of my sales to be MA’s, I’d aim for 10 and generally achieve 9. As MAs were where the electronics department made its profit, that was important.

So on the second Saturday before Christmas, I’m at work, as always, in the morning. I’ve come in early, as I always did, to count the stock, to clean the department, to make sure everything is pitch-perfect. Before heading out to the sales floor I check my MA score, and I’m a good two points above the standard for the month and three points for the year–tops for the department.

The morning starts off slow, though, for some reason. By ten o’clock I’ve only sold one MA eligible item, a DVD player. This particular one is cheap, only a hundred dollars (I know they’re even cheaper now, but we’re talking five years back), and the cheapest MA costs something like $99. I happen to know this customer will be coming back with his wife later to buy a big-screen TV, and my experience tells me not to even try to sell the MA on DVD player: it’s so obviously a bad deal that mentioning it will screw up the entire deal.

Five minutes later, just as business is picking up, I get a tap on my shoulder from the store manager. He pulls me back into the department office and says I have to spend the next half hour there, watching the MA training video. This will leave one salesperson on the floor, with about five customers waiting for help

“Why am I being pulled off?” I ask.

“Because you didn’t a MA on that DVD player,” he says. “Those are important to the store. They represent our profit margin. You need to go through the training again.”

(And, of course, be punished for not doing on this one item.)

“But the MA on that DVD player costs as much as the item itself,” I say. “It’s not a good deal. If I try to persuade the customer to buy it I’ll lose his trust, the trust I spent all week earning. I’m your top salesman, I’m your top MA producer. I know how to sell these things, and this customer shouldn’t buy one in my opinion.”

“Doesn’t matter. It’s to the customer’s benefit to buy it.”

“No it’s not. If I say that I’m a liar, and the customer will immediately see it. My JUDGMENT told me not to pursue that sale at all–to go for the bigger sale on the TV and get the MA on that, of I can. Plus people are going to have to WAIT for help while I’m back here.”

“Doesn’t matter. You have to learn that MAs are important (and be punished). Watch the video.”

At that point I decided to stop arguing with the letter. I sat down and watched the stupid video for half an hour. WhenI came out my coworker was surrounded by angry customers who’d had to wait. Said customers got even angrier as the store manager pulled HER off the sales floor for the same reason I’d been pulled.

This went on all day. Every hour, any salesperson who hadn’t sold an MA yet got pulled into the office to retake the MA training.


Next?

In my job analyzing claims, I will have to make adjustments. If the total adjustment is less than $500, I can make it w/o approval, otherwise, I have to pass it up the line depending on the amount.

A couple of weeks ago, the CFO decided that she wanted to see and approve ALL adjustment requests regardless of the amount. The refunds clerk had an adjustment for $.01 and had to turn it in. Yep, one freakin’ cent. After hundreds and hundreds of adjustments, she finally gave in and let us do our jobs. Amongst the 50-60 people in my office, we wasted hundreds of hours writing adjustments, making backup copies, waiting for them to come back, and then posting them.

Straight out of college, I was an independent contractor for a company that contracted with IBM to write tech courses for their employees. I got hired because I was friends with folks at the company, I’ll be honest: I didn’t have any technical experience, and while I’m a decent writer, I quickly learned that wasn’t enough. THe learning curve for the project was pretty steep for me.

But I got good at it. The product of our work had three parts, mandated by IBM:

  1. A Powerpoint* presentation.
  2. Notes for the student, slide by slide, expanding on the material in the Powerpoint presentation; students would receive these notes in a packet at the start of the course.
  3. Notes for the presenter, slide by slide, with ideas on how to present the material; students would not receive these notes.

We worked really hard to make the slides meaty, but there’s only so much meat you can stuff into a slide before it becomes unreadable. So we made the student notes rock: they were full of facts and figures, principles, quotes from luminaries in the field, techniques, and websites to visit for more information. They were great. The teaching notes were minimal, just giving ideas on what questions to expect and how to answer them, ideas for expanding the presentation, that sort of thing.

We finally finished the course I was working on, a three-day course with over a dozen different lengthy presentations. We’d been working with one team at IBM all along, having them review what we’d done, and they loved it,a bsolutely loved it. BUt when we finished, it went to a higher level of review.

And that’s when we hit the idiots.

They were worried about the student notes. Their department in IBM was paying for the course, and they planned to charge employees in other departments of IBM to take the course. The student notes were too good, though: a department could send a single employee to come take the course, get the student packet, and have enough information to teach it to everyone in their department. SO they made us gut the student notes, putting all that information only in the teacher’s copy and leaving only enough in the student notes so that the pages wouldn’t be completely empty.

It took about a week to go through all the presentations and gut them, and I don’t think the furious scowl left my face all during that week. At some point during that week I read IBM’s internal copyright guidelines and discovered that IBM’s policy would allow anyone from any department to request a copy, free of charge, of the presenter’s material. My company’s boss wouldn’t let me tell that to our bosses at IBM, though.

That was the week when I concluded that the corporate world was not for me.

Daniel

  • Not actually Powerpoint, but IBM’s shitty version of Powerpoint, a version that repeatedly crashed and corrupted the file I was working on, so that I started saving my documents every five minutes under a rotating file name scheme–but that’s another rant.

I was at 16 percent (High Volume Store with the only PLASMA displays in the state) in 2003 before I quit Sears Electronics because of this stuff

It was right after they start to require 7% to keep your job. 16% and I still would get pulled from the floor if I didn’t sell an MA/MPA that was 2000$ extra to some yahoo that had just saved up his 4000$ plus tax for 5 years to get a tv like this. It happens all to often and I think is horribly unfair

This is a simple no-brainer unless you’re the boss.

Right now I’m requesting around $500 a month raise (about $6k a year). Not a huge life-changing raise, but a nice little nudge.

Lately, being the only tech guy, I’ve been loaded with all kinds of different computer work (admin, hardware, tech support, and web design/programming, etc) which is what brought on the pay raise request. It is important to note I don’t have too much work but I’m doing tons more than what I was hired to do. This has been ongoing for about a year.

In the last two months I’ve logged about 30-40 hours each month of billable web programming time. We bill out my time at $120 per hour.

We have a company we can outsource web work if we need it. They charge us $120 an hour for work.

The boss says they can farm out the work to free up my time (and she is leaning towards this option). I let her know I have plenty of time, it’s a matter of my value to the company and paying your employee a correct wage for the work being done.

For some reason my pay request is hard to figure out for them. It seems pretty simple to me.

  1. Up my pay and we all make money off my work.

OR

  1. Farm out the work and we make zero money off it.

If they just want to break even why not hire another person at $40k a year? Hell, hire me at $40k a year to just do webwork and I’ll put in a good 30-40 hours of work a month and slack the rest of the time. I’d even be willing to work part time, taking $120 an hour and let the company break even. :smiley:

The boss is stuck right now wondering if there is a value in giving me the raise.

The best part - earlier in the year I overheard the project manager talking about a contract we just received and how this contract was going to be provided. He was going to set up the outsourcing that day. The outsourcing route was already approved (going the regular route they take on these kind of jobs).

The costs seemed really high to me so I stepped in and told him to give me two days before we outsourced parts of this process. The next day I offered a plan with another outsourced client which would increase our profit on this job by a bit over $13k a year. All it took was a few phone calls and a 20 minute pitch to the company. This new way was approved and it was set up. The company we worked this contract with just renewed another year. That’s another $13k profit in the bag. Easy-peasy.

The raise I’m requesting is half of that.

That money wouldn’t have even been there were it not for me stepping in. And yes, they know this. It has been brought up several times.

This is more of an ongoing irritation than outright stupidity, but here goes . . .

My boss is a busy, busy guy. In and out of his office, talking to different people, teaching classes, on the phone, taking telecons, etc.

Which is not to say that I while away the hours doing nothing, but I am busy in an extremely stationary way, i.e. I arrive at work, sit in front of my computer pounding away, go get lunch, which takes less than 10 minutes, and eat it at my desk, then pound away at my computer all afternoon until it’s time to leave.

We have tried in the past to meet at an appointed time each week, or even to fix a time, but to put it lightly, that trick never works. Something always comes up, or he forgets, or he confuses the meeting time with the time I told him that I absolutely have to leave for the bus or I have no way home and have to sleep under my desk tonight.

So whenever the boss expresses an interest in meeting, reasoning that I’m available all day, while he never knows in advance when he’ll have time, I simply say, “I’m here all day; just drop by whenever is convenient for you and we’ll talk.” He nods, and wanders off. I prepare the materials that I will need for our meeting, and then move on to whatever else I’m working on. Dooobie dooobie doo . . . Dooo doobie . . . go get lunch . . . doobie deeee, dah dah dah, I’m in my office, working.

Five minutes before I have to leave to catch my bus, he sticks his head in the door. “I thought we were going to meet today?”

“Uh, yeah. I was here all day. I thought you were going to stop by.”

“Oh. I thought you were going to come find me.”

“Oh. I see how you could get that impression, since it is completely the opposite of what we discussed.” <— I do not actually say this.

So here’s what he wants. I’m to arrive at work, and go to find his office closed, because he usually wanders in sometime in the middle of the day. Then throughout the day, I am to interrupt whatever I’m working on and wander over and find that he is:

Gone.
Gone.
Gone.
Finally here, but on the phone.
Gone.
Talking to someone else.
On the phone.
Busy with something that has to be done right away . . . check back in 20 minutes.
Gone.
Gone.
Talking to someone else.

. . . until the nth time, when, miraculously, he is actually available.

OR, how about this, Dr. Brain-the-Size-of-a-Planet, maybe WHEN YOU HAVE TIME TO TALK TO ME you could come by my office WHERE I SIT ALL DAY LONG, READY TO TALK TO YOU?

It’s terribly heartening that, while he acknowledges the need to talk to me in an abstract way, it is not important enough for him to remember that he wants to do so unless I’m standing in front of him, waving a sheaf of plots and demanding his attention.

My Boss once had the whole office up in arms over a commission split on a deal. After having two people leave and the rest of the office in an uproar, I finally pointed out that the agent was saying he should get 45%, and the Boss was saying he should get 30%, but the structure of the deal was that the agent should get the Boss’s 30% plus half of the second 30%.

Next time check the commission split schedule, do the math, and stop running all around the barn.

In my first job out of college, the head of the organization was filled with stupid boss tricks.

This was an Off-Track Betting corporation; the guy at the head got the job due to politics and ran it as his personal feifdom. Some of his tricks were:

  1. Hiring an advertising firm that got a percentage of all ad sales, even if they had nothing to do with it. They did a terrible job. Their one main accomplishment was putting a sign in front of one of the betting branches, one with changeable letters. This was probably a good idea – you could put the amount of the winners the day before – but they would only update the sign once a week or so. And the sign was locked, and they had the only key.

  2. Giving a local auto dealer ads in the daily betting information sheets. In exchange he personally got a free car.

  3. Hiring political cronies. When one friend lost an election to the city council, he was hired the very next day as head of security – a position that didn’t exist until the hire (interestingly, the guy hired knew how sleezy the boss was and was the center for those unhappy about how the place was run.

  4. Spending 11 months of the year telling you what a great job you were doing. However, in the 12th month – when raises were being considered – he’d be all over you for the slightest mistake.

  5. During his tenure, the minimum wage was raised. He refused to raise the wages of any employees making less than the new minimum, saying the law didn’t apply to him.

  6. My most memorable conversation with him was over payment. He spoke with pride about his generosity by pointing out how this year he was now paying people for Christmas, even though they didn’t have to work. It was strictly out of Mad Magazine: there was an article there about a fictional company bragging how it now offered it’s employees half-day pay for Christmas Day, even though they didn’t have to work it when Christmas fell on a weekend.

  7. He was just as cheap IRL. I later worked retail and he came in with his son, who wanted this expensive fiber-optic lamp (maybe about $20) for Christmas. He glommed onto a cheap $5 lamp and pushed like hell to get his son to get that instead. His son finally let himself be browbeaten and agreed; the look on his face was the perfect characterization of “My stupid father is at it again.”

Eventually, his underhanded methods were his downfall. He was convicted of hiring a no-show employee and attempting to bribe a grand jury witness, spent two years in jail and fined a total of $200,000. I’m sure the fine was the hardest part.

I have a HobbyTown near my office, not my home. I prefer going there. If you buy it from them, you get support, and they offer a lot of free help.

If you buy a vehicle off the net, and bring it in, they actually have a policy of not working on it.

They don’t carry alot of Kyosho, and I could have ordered my latest vehicle, a Kyosho Inferno GT Ralley Car off the web, but Hobbytown ordered it for me. They are there to help, and they’ll keep me up to date if any new parts or changes come out to the car.

I do buy unique things on the web, such as some Savage MT mods, but they are far and few between.

Having a big LHS is a dream come true. I support them whenever possible.

Having the web is pure gravy (custom body airbrushing, unique ebay items, etc).

Huh? WTF do hobby shops have to do with cars? What’s an LHS? What’s a Kyosho? And where’s the stupid boss trick?

My story is about stupid bosses plural!

I was out with a group of colleagues one night. Among the party was my immediate supervisor and another, more senior person. My supervisor was drinking a fair few beers but we thought nothing of it cos hey! it’s after work. Wasn’t til a couple of hours in that he stood up and wished us good night as he was going back to work some overtime that we needed doing. And promptly disappeared.

Our company has a ‘no drinking within x many hours of your shift’ policy. Anyone breaching this can be sacked immediately. Strike one.

The more senior person was aware of his intention to go work, aware of his drinking and HUGELY aware of the no-drinking policy since he’s an ex-alcoholic and the company counselled him through rather than sack him. Yet he said and did nothing. Strike two.

What really clinches it for me is the type of job my now-slightly-tiddly supervisor was doing. He was driving. I mean really, wtf?!?!?!

I wake up every morning thankful that I am self-employed, especially when my husband comes home every day with another layer of enamel gone from grinding his teeth over his boss’s complete idiocy. The man is a control freak from Hell who can’t give any of his employees the power to make even the smallest decisions, but he is also a moron because he can’t remember from day to day what he decided on something.

He doesn’t use or allow work orders of any kind; since he is prone to changing things in the middle of a project, so it’s a fairly common occurrance to have projects screwed up because he tells people contradictory things. Of course he will never own up to it and there’s no written records.

He makes stupid, arbitrary decisions about things he knows nothing about, just to assert ‘control’ over the situation. Last week he instructed my husband to delete about half his project files, even though this man cannot operate a computer well enough to read his own email, and there was no way he could have known what he was choosing to be deleted. The odds are good that information from those files will be needed again, as they do multiple jobs for the same companies, but nothing is more important than the boss getting to micromanage every damned thing.

He also has to assert his dominance with nicknames like ‘son’, ‘boy’, ‘sport’ and the like, but at least he quit the touchy-feelie shoulder grabbing, ass-patting crap after hubby went off on him like a nuclear melt-down.

BWAHHH!!! :smiley:

Do not - I repeat - DO NOT submit the post you intended for your Hobby Message Boards to the SDMB (like I did)! :smack:

Whatya mean you don’t know what Kyosho is!? Hethen!!! :stuck_out_tongue:

Well, my boss oftens mistakes a Hobby Message Board for a different type of message board. :wink:

But I once had a Lt Commander, for whom I worked, tell me, “Show me where that’s not written!”

My boss is great at pretending to work. He will be on the phone, talking in hushed tones. If you were just passing by it might sound like an important call from someone in Administration, but if you listen closely he’s really talking to his girlfriend.

Or, he’ll be tappity-tappiting away at his keyboard. Might seem like he’s working on an important letter or some reports. But really, he’s emailing one of his buddies about what movie to go see that night.

Or, he’ll say, “I have an errand to run,” and be gone for two hours. You’d think he could be picking up a shipment from a vendor, but later on you just happen to see him in a restaurant window having breakfast with one of his friends. What a champ.

Here are just two (of hundreds) of the “cute” things my boss has sent out in his correspondence: instead of typing, “operations and maintenance fund” the memo went out, “operations and marinade fund.” Instead of typing, “congratulations on your re-certification.” the letter went out, “congregations on your rectification.”

I suppose he just hits okayokayokay to whatever spell check suggests without even glancing at his monitor? I beg him to send me any/all of his correspondence in hopes of saving our program the embarrassment.

I have this image of some low-key hobby website getting some inflammatory, non-sequitor post about a boss charging a nickel for the dixie cups at the water cooler. :slight_smile:

Something I learned from an old boss: If a particular employee is very important to the continuing function of your workplace, it’s in your interest to let them know.

No, really, it is. Especially if they get called for jury duty. Otherwise, when they’re called for a murder trial that’s going to last at least a couple of weeks, the employee might think, “My boss can spare me for that long,” and end up being selected for the panel. Then you’ll have to have an unnecessary tizzy fit and call the judge and your employee will have to make an embarassing return trip to the courthouse (IF the judge is willing to play along, and IF jury selection is still underway, which it fortunately was when this happened to me!) to get out of the case.

I mean, if I’d KNOWN my absence would interfere with a load of work that was necessary for a big grant application being prepared, I’d have gotten myself excused during voir dire and avoided all that running around. But I never heard from my boss about the importance of what I was doing, only about how I was never doing it up to his exacting standards.

I have to say he did appear to learn from this episode; within months (which was quick for him) he’d decided I was badly underpaid and needed a 25% raise. Which is a pretty decent way to show appreciation.

My boss was completely unable to spell. It was a in-joke that in order to move up in the company you needed to be illiterate.

He once sent an email to several important-to-the-business people, as well as his superiors and a smattering of employees. He was referring to a situation in Virginia and don’t you know, it was spelled Vagina.

This email then got forwarded to everyone around by a spiteful person to humiliate him. Did you see it too? :eek:

Soon after he had me start typing his emails, sending them to him and then he would cut-and-paste into his own email. Smart move, I prided myself on making him look intelligent and coherent. Then he laid me off. I’d love to see some of his correspondence now!

Oh, it’s a religious matter, then…