Speaking of Jehova’s Witnesses, they come to my door regularly. They don’t bother me, I don’t agree with them, but they don’t seem like assholes. But I’ve noticed that the men come to the door, and the women stay on the sidewalk near the street.
A friend of mine used to take me with her when she went car shopping. I don’t even drive, and had no interest in what she was going to buy (outside of being a potential passenger). If the salesman started directing his answers to her questions to me, or asked me what I, was looking for in a car, we walked. One time the salesman even tried to put me in the driver’s seat for a test drive, despite the fact that I had already said that I didn’t have a license.
When our daughter was studying in Japan my Japanese-American wife (who does not speak Japanese) and I went to visit her. When we were sight-seeing or shopping or whatever and my wife had a question, she would ask, our daughter would translate it into Japanese, and the shopkeeper/server/guide or whoever would address me directly with the answer.
I swear this happened Every. Single. Time.
This was probably 1998. My Wife and I went to buy a car for her. A used car. She had to get a 4x4 for where we live. It was a used Suzuki Sidekick. Manual transmission. The SALESMAN could not drive a manual transmission. Um. What? So my wife test drove the car, and drove me and the salesman around.
She/we bought it. Turned out to be a pretty darn good car.
The last straw in the relationship between my sister and our father came one Christmas, after she had her first child (a girl). My sister wanted a particular power tool (Mom made sure we were comfortable with power tools growing up-- She raised us right). Dad, to his credit, did get it for her… except that the tag read “To <niece>'s little brother”. The concept of buying a power tool for a woman was so foreign to him that he had to instead buy it for a nonexistant man. Even with having lived with a power-tool-using woman for years.
Huh, the one time Jehova’s Witnesses came to my door, it was two women, with no men in sight.
Robert J. Serling (Rod’s brother and best selling author) wrote She’ll Never Get Off the Ground (1971) about the first female airline pilot. I haven’t read it, but I suspect much of the conflict was due to misogyny.
Without searching to back it up, I do remember a Rabbi explaining to us that men had to wear a hat to remind him that God ruled over him and that women didn’t have to do the same because God made her especially for a man so she was already holy.
When I asked him about the shaved head for women, he said that he learned that custom was actually to make the women unattractive to non-Jewish men. I always thought the explanation a little odd, but this is the explanation given to my World Religions high-school class. I think he maybe he didn’t want to have to give a bigger explanation in the time-frame he had to speak with us.
That, like a lot of the other “Paul stuff”, is about that particular congregation, or community. In this case, newly converted women who had been prostitutes at the pagan temple, who shaved their heads, were advised to cover their heads so their former status wouldn’t be as obvious.
Both, and many early-phase trials are done on “people of reproductive age” (i.e. up to age 44).
Depends on multiple factors. I started a thread about this a while back.
Including the work she did in the nearly 30 years after he died that she was still working? And the Nobel Prize she won 5 years after he died?
The most extreme example I can think of this is female genital mutilation (where the clitoris is removed), which is often a ritualized practice in certain African societies. Many of the proponents and practitioners are themselves women!
My Wife and I are equals. That’s the only way for a marriage to work. She is better at some stuff, and I am better at other stuff. That’s harmony. It’s simpatico.
Trying to change that is a fools errand. Neither of us would want to. It would be pointless.
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That is correct only in a small part. It is prevalent in the USA too.
Dawoodi Bohras are sect of Muslims that live in many south Asian countries like India, Pakistan, … Dawoodi Bohra - Wikipedia. They have a sizable population in the USA too. They are a very financially successful and close knit community and keep such matters very well hidden
They typically have their own doctors in the USA, who do FGM for their community. Here is a story of a second American Doctor who was caught Second Doctor Arrested in US Female Genital Mutilation Case
Cite? I’ve never heard that.
Thank you for the clarification, horrifying though it may be.
Is it inaccurate to say that just about EVERYTHING IN Middle Eastern cultures is misogynistic? Yes, IMHO that’s pretty inaccurate. Are their shoes misogynistic? Is the use of za’atar in their cuisine misogynistic? Is the design of their sink faucets misogynistic? Are their active feminist movements misogynistic? No.
I mean, it’s totally fair to say that there’s a lot of misogyny in many aspects of many Middle Eastern cultures (not excluding those of Israel, Jordan and Algeria btw, although as you note they have significantly less systemic sexism, in varying degrees, than many of their neighbors). There’s a lot of misogyny in many aspects of almost all cultures, for that matter, depending on how you quantify “a lot”.
But blanket generalizations like “just about everything in middle eastern culture fits here” are way too sweeping to provide any useful insights to such a discussion, IMHO.
Obviously it’s a straw man that anyone was really claiming that all aspects of every culture are misogynistic. More that on any kind of broad metric for women’s rights, almost every country in the region would score dismally.
But shoes? That’s an odd first thing to pick as an example of something that’s not going to be affected by pervasive misogynistic attitudes in cultures that seek to enforce mate-guarding “modesty”. Maybe the morality police don’t care if you’re wearing Jimmy Choos underneath so long as nobody sees them?
Is that how you read the statement “just about everything in middle eastern culture fits here”? As meaning “just about every individual middle eastern culture is significantly misogynistic”, rather than "just about every aspect of [undifferentiated] middle eastern culture is misogynistic"?
If so, then I agree with you that the former paraphrase of that statement is more factually defensible than the latter. However, the former paraphrase is not what the statement at face value appears to be saying, nor am I convinced that that’s actually what Mallard meant by it.
In retrospect I may have over-paraphrased, and Mallard may have been making a stronger claim. But in countries where women have little autonomy and no opportunity for education, maybe that stronger claim is not far from the truth - that misogyny permeates almost every aspect of culture. Take your other two examples:
Can a single woman invite a single man to share a meal of za’atar chicken? Can she even go to a restaurant to eat it with platonic friends “unaccompanied”? Are there female chefs, do women run restaurants?
How many female engineers or interior designers or plumbers are there?