And even if he were perfect, and never makes a mistake, how certain is he that everyone else is just as perfect? Does he really believe that every Joe Schmo on the street that qualifies for a license is going to follow all the rules and is never going to make a mistake? That’s even more delusional.
There are about 5000 handgun murders per year. Most of those "gun deaths’ are suicides.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2015/10/05/obamas-claim-that-states-with-the-most-gun-laws-tend-to-have-the-fewest-gun-deaths/
However, 50,000 Non-smokers die every year due to second hand smoke.
Well done, Big Tobacco! Bravo!!
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There are about 11,000 to 12,000 firearms homicides per year. Are you claiming that about 6,000 to 7,000 of those are committed with long guns? Usually gun advocates like to minimize the number of long gun homcides. Interesting.
It’s true that there are more suicides than homicides by firearms, but only by 60/40 or so.
The smug, superior attitude is a dead giveaway.
And guess what that number would be if smoking hadn’t been increasingly regulated and restricted over the years (recent UK example). Unlike guns in the US, where any regulation to attempt to reduce gun deaths is met with passionate resistance. Is this really the comparison you wanted to use?
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a cigarette is a good guy with a cigarette! Just like the only solution to drunk driving fatalities is more drunk drivers!
Actually you’re more likely to stop a bad guy with a gun by tackling him than by shooting him, statistically speaking.
Combat Vets Destroy the NRA’s Heroic Gunslinger Fantasy
(Yes, it’s a lefty source but there’s a lot of studies cited in the article. Also, I’d like to register my usual objection to headlines that use the word “destroy” to mean “offer an opposing argument to”, no matter how strong the evidence; it’s WAY overused.)
Sadly, he wasn’t asked about the effectiveness of shouting “Hey everybody, let’s get him!”
Bolding mine.
This is a very different number than my source shows. Your link seems to provide no such statistic.
Are most gun murders by shotgun? Murders without arrest/conviction or pled down to manslaughter don’t count? Don’t keep us in suspense – what’s your Gotcha?
(Or are you omitting gun murders where the victim was to blame, per leading GOP scientist Ben Carson?)
Excellent point.
He has also confused “carrying a gun in the United States” with “deciding his own fate” when there’s almost zero likelihood that he’ll ever have to use it. What a paper cowboy.
Thank you for your pretend service, canned mayhem. As a reward, here’s a little joke you can relate to…
*A cowboy rides into town one day, goes into the saloon and orders a drink. Looking around, he sees that he and the bartender are the only ones there.
“Where is everyone?” he asks.
“At the hangin’”, the bartender says.
“Yeah?” The cowboy downs his drink. “Who are they hangin’?”
“Brown Paper Pete”, says the bartender.
“Brown Paper Pete? What kind o’ name is that for a cowboy?”
“Well,” says the bartender, “he wore a brown paper hat, brown paper shirt, brown paper pants and brown paper boots.”
“Really? So what are they hangin’ him for?”
“Rustling.”*
Take care, CM.
My nephew entered the local police force earlier this year. In training, it was drilled into him that his most effective weapon is his mouth. If the NRA really wanted to promote responsible gun use, it would take its cue from modern law enforcement agencies rather than its corporate masters.
Did Blair’s study happen to include data about instances where there were options other than tackling the assailant? Like how many times there were armed civilians who decided not to intervene?
A less bloviating article which includes more of the veteran’s commentary.
Bolding mine.
Do you believe that Mintz would have been shot seven times tackling the shooter if he had been armed himself? Or if Parker had been in the same or even the next room?
Completely agree with you on your objections to “destroy”. If Hillary/Obama had been destroyed as often as the conservative pundits have claimed, they would have been reduced to their component subatomic particles by now.
Guns are protected by the Bill of Rights, and smoking isn’t. In any case, those “restrictions” are very minor.
It’s simple- ban smoking. 100%.
wiki:
According to the FBI, in 2012, there were 8,855 total firearm-related homicides in the US, with 6,371 of those attributed to handguns
I guess my figure of 5000 was from a different year or more rounding. But it’s damn close.
Yeeeeeeehaww! Looks like its open season on criminals of all stripes now. This woman is a hero: Bystander opens fire on shoplifter at Home Depot.
This will simply be counted as another good example of “defensive gun use”.
11 year old shoots 8 year old neighbor with his dad’s shotgun.
Unlocked loaded gun in a closet.
The more guns there are, the more there will be incidents like this. It is the price you pay for your “freedom.” Good luck with that.
This one happened in my area and it’s really fucked up. I’m hoping the boy didn’t flat out murder her. I’m hoping he thought the gun was empty and was just trying to scare her. Not that it matters, she’s dead either way.
The kid was a known bully with a history of abusing that girl, so I’m going to go with “intentional” and I hope he gets jailed for life or longer. He’s a waste of space.
And without that easy access to a gun, I don’t think it is likely he would have killed her. But by all means - get more guns. Don’t put any horrible red tape in place that reduces your access. The government should not tell me how to store my guns. More guns will make us all safer.
Because Freedom!
He still might have been just trying to scare her. Not that it makes a difference, I’d just rather live in a world where kids are sometimes stupid than one where they are cold blooded murderers.
Unfortunately they are saying it’s likely he’ll only be held until 19. It’s nearly impossible to get someone his age tried as an adult in Tennessee, and 19 is the longest they can keep a minor.